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Old 08-22-2021, 01:40 PM
 
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COVID-19 vaccine technologies have been studied for years and used in other treatments without issue.

Interesting that folks who are advocating for all kinds of drugs/treatments that have extensive potential side effects to treat COVID but they run away from the vaccine that doesn't have as many listed side effects.

I don't get the lack of common sense/logic.
There has been no such use of this technology in people, outside of tests, up to now. Not true.
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Old 08-22-2021, 02:02 PM
 
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Wonder if they are eating crow yet ?
Nah. You've heard the "it's my lie and I'm sticking to it". They'll never own up to being wrong, they'll just twist it around to make a different version.
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Old 08-22-2021, 02:04 PM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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COVID-19 vaccine technologies have been studied for years and used in other treatments without issue.

Interesting that folks who are advocating for all kinds of drugs/treatments that have extensive potential side effects to treat COVID but they run away from the vaccine that doesn't have as many listed side effects.

I don't get the lack of common sense/logic.
But not one approved drug has come out of all those years of research.
Maybe you should go look into that to figure out why.

This covid vaccine is a researcher's wet dream. The entire world is their "clinical trial".
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Old 08-22-2021, 02:13 PM
 
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But not one approved drug has come out of all those years of research.
Maybe you should go look into that to figure out why.

This covid vaccine is a researcher's wet dream. The entire world is their "clinical trial".


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Old 08-22-2021, 02:27 PM
 
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When everyone is vaccinated you are going to have some in the hospital.

Good lord, are you this dense

Not if the REASON they are vaccinated is to stay OUT of the hospital.



Good lord...




The vaccine is supposed to DO something, it isn't just a hat you wear.
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Old 08-22-2021, 02:29 PM
 
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This just another confirmation the priority given to a vax took away treatments to help those in the here and now while putting society into a holding pattern.
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Old 08-22-2021, 02:44 PM
 
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We can take solace in the fact the blue masks we wear, work up to Ten ,10 percent efficiency .study says.
So if we wear ten of them on top of one another we will be safe.
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Old 08-22-2021, 02:50 PM
 
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(you have to go outside of the USA to get this info.)

Deaths from Janssen vaccines' investigated


https://www.manilatimes.net/2021/08/...igated/1811718
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Old 08-22-2021, 02:55 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Those who are unvaccinated might want to stay that way since the vaccines have greatly lost their ability to prevent infection and hospitalization.

The majority of hospitalized Israeli covid-19 patients are fully vaccinated:
https://www.beckershospitalreview.co...udy-finds.html


As some scientists have already stated, coronaviruses mutate/evolve too rapidly for vaccines to effectively contain them. We need to focus on developing more effective treatments for those who get infected, since vaccines won't stop this pandemic.
(sigh)

People fall for "statistics" so easily...

OK, by the numbers.

There are 8.6 million people in Israel.

According to OurWorldInData.com, 61% of them are fully vaccinated. That's 5.2 million.

According to the article linked in the OP:
"Of 514 patients in Israel hospitalized with COVID-19 as of Aug. 15, 59 percent were fully vaccinated"

59% of the 514 is 303 people, who are fully vaccinated but still came down with Covid-19 anyway.

The people who developed the vaccines say the vaccine has a 95% efficacy rate. Meaning, if 100 people get fully vaccinated, 5 of them can still get the virus. This has been well known and published since before the vaccine was even released. So, 5% of the people who are fully vaccinated, can still get the Covid virus and suffer from it.

In summary: 5.2 million people in Israel are fully vaccinated. 303 of them have come down with the virus anyway. That means 0.0058% of the people who are fully vaccinated, still got Covid.

And these boobs who like to write sensational headlines, want you to believe that means the vaccine ISN'T working???

I disagree. I say it proves that this is one of the most successful, best-working vaccines in the history of mankind. Its results are a thousand times better than even the people who developed it, dared to forecast.

Why do you keep falling for headlines written by boobs to sell newspapers, that are so easily disproven?
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Old 08-22-2021, 02:55 PM
 
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(you have to go outside of the USA to get this info.)

Deaths from Janssen vaccines' investigated


https://www.manilatimes.net/2021/08/...igated/1811718
To get any trust worthy news you have to glean web sites and News papers from around the world .I subscribe to 15 international sources.. Amazing what is not published or twisted in the MSM.
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