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Old 08-23-2021, 08:27 AM
 
Location: NYC
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A friend of mine is just recently recovering from Covid. She wasn’t vaccinated.

She said when she went to the urgent care, the nurses and doctor there told her the increase in cases is due to the vaccinated people spreading it…that they aren’t aware they even have it and that’s why it’s exploding now.

Makes sense to me especially considering the cases were so low last summer with no vaccine.
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Old 08-23-2021, 09:10 AM
 
Location: OH->FL->NJ
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Vaxxed people spread it but at a lower rate.

The story is likely repeated form antivaxx sources. Its biased and propaganda

Then again my post is also biased.
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Old 08-23-2021, 09:34 AM
 
Location: SE UK
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A friend of mine is just recently recovering from Covid. She wasn’t vaccinated.

She said when she went to the urgent care, the nurses and doctor there told her the increase in cases is due to the vaccinated people spreading it…that they aren’t aware they even have it and that’s why it’s exploding now.

Makes sense to me especially considering the cases were so low last summer with no vaccine.
No the Indian (Delta) variant is causing the increase in cases, vaccinated people are LESS likely to spread it, most of the people getting infected now are un-vaccinated, and because the percentage of un-vaccinated people is a lot less than the percentage of vaccinated people in the population (certainly here in the UK) this just goes to show it.
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Old 08-23-2021, 09:37 AM
 
Location: NYC
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Disagree. My doctor said half his vaccinated patients are hospitalized.
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Old 08-23-2021, 09:37 AM
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Vaccinated person with covid has higher viral load, correct?
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Old 08-23-2021, 09:39 AM
 
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Considering they were trying to say the vaxxed couldn't spread earlier in the year by the time the severity of the issue is divulged the numbers will be much higher.

Also at what stage are the vaxxed spreading. They're saying efficacy is 6 to 8 months so could the early vaxxed be spreading more than the more recent?
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Old 08-23-2021, 09:50 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Disagree. My doctor said half his vaccinated patients are hospitalized.
Half of his vaccinated patients are hospitalized???

Or did he say half of his patients that are hospitalized were vaccinated?
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Old 08-23-2021, 09:51 AM
 
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A friend of mine is just recently recovering from Covid. She wasn’t vaccinated.

She said when she went to the urgent care, the nurses and doctor there told her the increase in cases is due to the vaccinated people spreading it…that they aren’t aware they even have it and that’s why it’s exploding now.

Makes sense to me especially considering the cases were so low last summer with no vaccine.
Delta wasn't out last summer.
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Old 08-23-2021, 09:56 AM
 
Location: 0.83 Atmospheres
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Vaccinated person with covid has higher viral load, correct?
Huh? Source?
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Old 08-23-2021, 10:09 AM
 
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A friend of mine is just recently recovering from Covid. She wasn’t vaccinated.

She said when she went to the urgent care, the nurses and doctor there told her the increase in cases is due to the vaccinated people spreading it…that they aren’t aware they even have it and that’s why it’s exploding now.

Makes sense to me especially considering the cases were so low last summer with no vaccine.
That throws the whole "herd immunity" fairytale right out the window now, doesn't it?

However, it's not "the vaccine" causing the spread.

COVID is just more virulent now than before.

The unvaccinated spread it more and suffer more, but in areas where most people are already vaccinated the only manifestation can be from the vaccinated. That means an unvaccinated person in a world full of vaccinated people is still not safe, and the children are still not safe.

Vaccinated people can spread Delta among themselves, each getting a sniffle or a sneeze, maybe a headache or whatever. But when it hits a vulnerable unvaccinated adult in the middle of the 'herd' it could go into a full blown crises, possibly intubation and possibly great harm or even death.

Make no mistake about it: in those areas where thirty percent of the people are unvaccinated that is where most of the spread is coming from. The vaccinated adults can only increase the number by a comparatively smaller percentage.

Yet, this Delta variant is certainly virulent, and does spread by both the vaccinated and the unvaccinated before the symptoms show up (the initial symptoms are actually evidence of the immune system working, and a vaccinated person should display some symptoms more quickly than an unvaccinated person would). That is why large gatherings are not a good idea where most of the participants are probably not vaccinated, those folks can quickly be infected.

Word to the wise: after gathering in larger groups like rallies or whatever, take a shower and wash your clothes, including that baseball cap.
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