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Old 09-07-2021, 08:23 AM
 
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I think New Zealand has officially taken over as the top Nanny State in the free world.

Holy crap.

This is the same country that goes into national lockdown if ONE CASE of China Virus is found. They are the same country that basically stripped all gun rights from its people after the mass shooting a couple years ago.

I guess the freedom of their citizens depends on the whims of rogue states like China releasing viruses or nutcases stabbing or shooting people?

Surely even the liberals and staunchest supporters of government crackdowns on freedoms here understand that this is ridiculous?

https://thehill.com/policy/internati...fter-terrorist
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Old 09-07-2021, 08:29 AM
 
Location: TPA
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We're calling other countries on other continents nanny states now lol. Okay. Quite an obsession with New Zealand here. Their coronavirus lockdowns is why they have no cases and can function normally. And guess what: New Zealanders do not care about the lockdowns, nor do they care what we Americans think about it or them.

They even shut down McDonalds for two weeks, and no one in NZ cared. That is what I've been told by actual people who live there, not some headline. They didn't politicize the virus.

Also, this is purposely disingenuous. A "nanny state" by yalls definition is something the government does without the people asking them to, but:

- it is a supermarket chain, not the New Zealand government, who has made this decision - after an attack that took place in their store from someone from Sri Lanka. Some other chains have followed suit.

Also, this is temporary.

New Zealanders, can still buy knives in New Zealand, if they really want to. We really have an inferiority complex to New Zealand.
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Old 09-07-2021, 08:32 AM
 
Location: TX
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Their coronavirus lockdowns is why they have no cases and can function normally.
Did you just use "lockdowns" and "function normally" in the same sentence? "New normal", I guess?
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Old 09-07-2021, 08:37 AM
 
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Did you just use "lockdowns" and "function normally" in the same sentence? "New normal", I guess?
Way to distract from the point. The point is the thread title, like most of them in this forum, is dishonest. The New Zealand government did not remove or ban knives. A supermarket removed them, and - it is a temporary measure. You can still buy a knife in New Zealand.

And yes I did. Coming from people who actually live in New Zealand, their lockdowns have been quick and swift, and they have worked. Americans think everyone else in the world is wrong if they dont think like us and do what we think they should do. New Zealand does not care what we think.

New Zealand is not interested in the political debates. Any sign of the virus, they squash it. And now they have actual "freedom" and are functioning closer to how they did pre-virus. Not sure why that's such a point of contention. We are jealous I guess, but it's our own fault.
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Old 09-07-2021, 08:42 AM
 
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We're calling other countries on other continents nanny states now lol. Okay. Quite an obsession with New Zealand here. Their coronavirus lockdowns is why they have no cases and can function normally. And guess what: New Zealanders do not care about the lockdowns, nor do they care what we Americans think about it or them.

They even shut down McDonalds for two weeks, and no one in NZ cared. That is what I've been told by actual people who live there, not some headline. They didn't politicize the virus.

Also, this is purposely disingenuous. A "nanny state" by yalls definition is something the government does without the people asking them to, but:

- it is a supermarket chain, not the New Zealand government, who has made this decision - after an attack that took place in their store from someone from Sri Lanka. Some other chains have followed suit.

Also, this is temporary.

New Zealanders, can still buy knives in New Zealand, if they really want to. We really have an inferiority complex to New Zealand.
Yeah no kidding. WHAT DOES THAT SAY ABOUT THEM??
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Old 09-07-2021, 08:46 AM
 
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China should just annex these timid, terrified sheep.

I'm surprised they haven't already.
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Old 09-07-2021, 08:48 AM
 
Location: New Jersey and hating it
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Way to distract from the point. The point is the thread title, like most of them in this forum, is dishonest. The New Zealand government did not remove or ban knives. A supermarket removed them, and - it is a temporary measure. You can still buy a knife in New Zealand.

And yes I did. Coming from people who actually live in New Zealand, their lockdowns have been quick and swift, and they have worked. Americans think everyone else in the world is wrong if they dont think like us and do what we think they should do. New Zealand does not care what we think.

New Zealand is not interested in the political debates. Any sign of the virus, they squash it. And now they have actual "freedom" and are functioning closer to how they did pre-virus. Not sure why that's such a point of contention. We are jealous I guess, but it's our own fault.
They have squashed nothing. The virus will be back and then another lockdown. Repeat and rinse.

And furthermore, it’s easy to contain a virus when you are a bunch of islands far away from most of the world with no dumb president Biden opening the borders allowing millions to just walk in, then flying them all over your country.
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Old 09-07-2021, 08:59 AM
 
Location: Austin TX
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Future headline:

“Countryside scoured for rocks and sharp sticks”.
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Old 09-07-2021, 09:04 AM
 
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Future headline:

“Countryside scoured for rocks and sharp sticks”.
As our caveman ancestors had shown, those objects can be fashioned into quite lethal weapons.

All of these measures by NZ are just reactionary attempts to squelch the symptoms and not cure the disease.

Where there’s a will, there’s a way.

Edit: NZ government is not banning knives

Last edited by mingna; 09-07-2021 at 09:36 AM..
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Old 09-07-2021, 09:05 AM
 
Location: TPA
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Yeah no kidding. WHAT DOES THAT SAY ABOUT THEM??
Lol why are you screaming? So I guess you admit I'm right since you added absolutely zero substance.

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They have squashed nothing. The virus will be back and then another lockdown. Repeat and rinse.

And furthermore, it’s easy to contain a virus when you are a bunch of islands far away from most of the world ...rambling about a bunch of nonsense that I heard on Newsmax
New Zealand is closer to normalcy than most anyone else. Island nation or not, they take the coronavirus serious and aren't beating each other up on airplanes and shooting each other over masks. That is the American way.

Why do you, as an American, care about their lockdowns, when they dont care themselves? No one in New Zealand is screaming about muh freedoms, and no one is making you go sit in New Zealand.

New Zealand lives rent free here.
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