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My cousin recently caught covid. He said he was throwing up non-stop for 10 days and also had Pneumonia. He said he went to the hospital and was in the room. They asked him if he was vaccinated... when he said no. The healthcare worker's demeanor completely changed. He said "well i don't have to go through what you are because IM VACCINATED" . When are you people going to learn...
He said he was locked in a room for hours, no blanket, nobody checked on him, and even when his o2 machine went off... Nobody came.....
Literally said it was living hell.
They gave him nothing besides painkillers and something for the Pneumonia.
Sounds like these hospitals are basically refusing care for the un-vaccinated and trying to intentionally kill people. Seems like they are being political at this point.
This is insane.
Just admit you made all this up so you could get a thread going here.
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My cousin recently caught covid. He said he was throwing up non-stop for 10 days and also had Pneumonia. He said he went to the hospital and was in the room. They asked him if he was vaccinated... when he said no. The healthcare worker's demeanor completely changed. He said "well i don't have to go through what you are because IM VACCINATED" . When are you people going to learn...
He said he was locked in a room for hours, no blanket, nobody checked on him, and even when his o2 machine went off... Nobody came.....
Literally said it was living hell.
They gave him nothing besides painkillers and something for the Pneumonia.
Sounds like these hospitals are basically refusing care for the un-vaccinated and trying to intentionally kill people. Seems like they are being political at this point.
This is insane.
ER personnel are quite fed up with people who refuse to vaccinate because (insert whatever reason here) and then they show up wanting to be fixed right away. The ER personnel are exhausted-living in a proverbial Groundhog Day.
The story sounds sketchy. There’s too much information missing. He should be grateful he got a room, pain killers and “something” for pneumonia. What did he expect? A helicopter flight to Walter Reed? Did he stuff himself with Ivermectin prior to going to the ER? How long had he been symptomatic before he went to the ER?
If he felt like it was living hell that’s because he has COVID and that’s what the virus does: make you feel like you’re in hell. It is real, it’s not a hoax and it’s not the flu. Some people have an easy bout and other people go through hell and some people die. But hey, 99.9% “recover” (never mention Long Haul Covid).
NO, they’re not being political. They’re just fed up with stupidity, selfishness and whining. The ones who are anti masks and anti vaccine are the ones being political.
If you’re going to be defiant on masks and vaccines, then be defiant till the very end.
So many breakthrough cases that 59% of those in Israel hospitalized are fully-vaccinated.
Interesting, how the general public is not able to get a 3rd vaccine upon request if they want either.
Even though there are a tremendous amounts of breakthrough infections and hospitalizations even with the vaccine, I called about a 3rd vaccine and they said I can't get a 3rd yet.
There is something fishy going on when people they have a tremendous amount of vaccine but those who want choices including a 3rd are only approved for certain conditions.
People should have a choice. People should be able to get a 3rd vaccine if they want or if they don't want it none at all.
ER personnel are quite fed up with people who refuse to vaccinate because (insert whatever reason here) and then they show up wanting to be fixed right away. The ER personnel are exhausted-living in a proverbial Groundhog Day.
The story sounds sketchy. There’s too much information missing. He should be grateful he got a room, pain killers and “something” for pneumonia. What did he expect? A helicopter flight to Walter Reed? Did he stuff himself with Ivermectin prior to going to the ER? How long had he been symptomatic before he went to the ER?
If he felt like it was living hell that’s because he has COVID and that’s what the virus does: make you feel like you’re in hell. It is real, it’s not a hoax and it’s not the flu. Some people have an easy bout and other people go through hell and some people die. But hey, 99.9% “recover” (never mention Long Haul Covid).
NO, they’re not being political. They’re just fed up with stupidity, selfishness and whining. The ones who are anti masks and anti vaccine are the ones being political.
If you’re going to be defiant on masks and vaccines, then be defiant till the very end.
The guy didn't need a ventilator. I suspect staff were dealing with helping people to breath.
It sucks -- but I know of a guy who didn't refuse the vaccine, who was in the hospital for something else and died because there wasn't enough staff, rooms, resources to care for him.
This anecdote highlights the importance of not burdening the hospital system ----
ER personnel are quite fed up with people who refuse to vaccinate because (insert whatever reason here) and then they show up wanting to be fixed right away. The ER personnel are exhausted-living in a proverbial Groundhog Day.
The story sounds sketchy. There’s too much information missing. He should be grateful he got a room, pain killers and “something” for pneumonia. What did he expect? A helicopter flight to Walter Reed? Did he stuff himself with Ivermectin prior to going to the ER? How long had he been symptomatic before he went to the ER?
If he felt like it was living hell that’s because he has COVID and that’s what the virus does: make you feel like you’re in hell. It is real, it’s not a hoax and it’s not the flu. Some people have an easy bout and other people go through hell and some people die. But hey, 99.9% “recover” (never mention Long Haul Covid).
NO, they’re not being political. They’re just fed up with stupidity, selfishness and whining. The ones who are anti masks and anti vaccine are the ones being political.
If you’re going to be defiant on masks and vaccines, then be defiant till the very end.
With all due respect, if healthcare workers cannot take the emotion out of it and do their jobs without bias, perhaps people should start lying and saying they did get the vaccine.
Why so many breakthrough infections? So many "vaccinated" are making fun of the unvaccinated until many of the vaccinated get very sick with COVID.
Will be interesting when more and more vaccinated people who have mocked the vaccinated find out they have a breakthrough case and are hospitalized like the 60% in Isreal who are in the hospital with COVID fully vaccinated.
I am "vaccinated" and I have been researching getting a 3rd but I certainly won't be surprised if I catch COVID-19.
The highly paid hospital administrators of these hospitals had a year to plan for COVID outbreaks and the government has gave them a fortune also and yet they always complain about resources.
They are overwhelmed because of the extremely high wages causing them to have an extreme scarcity of physicians and hospital beds.
US doctors and nurses get paid a fortune so that means that doctors and nurses have twice the work of other countries because they want exteme scarcity and very, very high wages.
Why does America has very few physicians and hospital beds per-capita compared to a majority of countries?
Let me try and explain it without taking an adversarial position. I don't believe in it and do not try and demean anyone, vaccinated or not.
This vaccine has some preclinical development but the actual development with human trials and getting EUA was extremely short - just 9 months. Most vaccines take 3-10 years. I know of people who were enrolled in Pfizer clinical trials in July 2020. The vaccine was approved for EUA on 12/11/2020, just 5 months later. Nothing like this has ever happened in vaccine trials.
So when you have something like that, you cannot know for certain how long the vaccine will work. You have not studied it that long in clinical trials. You just hope that it works 6 months or more. You also don't know its long term side effects but we don't know that for many vaccines, some of those that have been out for decades. The exact dose to be used could not also be clearly determined. Too less and you get less efficacy. Too much and you might get too much side effects. So it was a rough guess based on the clinical trial to find a right dose, the Goldilocks dose. It initially appeared that Pfizer got it right with good efficacy against the then usual COVID-19 virus with minimal side effects. Moderna used a higher dose and had the same effect but had slightly higher side effects.
But then came the delta variant mutant of the virus. It was more infectious and had higher risk for serious infection and death and less effectiveness against the vaccine then out. Pfizer had no time to develop a new and improved vaccine against this variant. They hoped that their original vaccine would work. But then their chosen dose and duration of action now worked against them and the Moderna vaccine dosing showed more effectiveness against the delta variant. That is why a booster dose is more important to be given to people who have had the Pfizer vaccine than those with Moderna, though even Moderna patients will benefit from a booster dose. And people will immunosupression like cancer and other diseases and even some elderly would benefit even more, especially if they have had the Pfizer vaccine in Dec-March period.
Coming to breakthrough infections - since we did not know how long the vaccine's effectiveness would last and its effect against the new strains of the virus, we find out that at some point the COVID affects even those who are vaccinated. So a country like Israel that has high rate of vaccination, especially with Pfizer vaccine, will have break through infections. Especially against new strains of virus. But the good news is that many of those cases are just cases - when you look deeper you find that many have cough / cold / flu like symptoms and very few require ER visits, even fewer require hospitalizations, few need ICU and ventilator and the rare ones die. But usually those who die have comorbidity like overweight, diabetes, immunosupression, very elderly and so on. But those deaths make big news since people have been led to believe that if you get the vaccine you won't get COVID or die. It is true for the 99.99% but it is not 100%. The 0.001% will get serious COVID and 0.0001% will die.
Once the booster vaccine is readily available and used, the number of COVID cases in vaccinated persons will drop. But it will still occur, as the percentage of vaccinated people go up. And those mild cases can transmit the virus to people who are not vaccinated. And some vaccinated people will die of COVID, especially if new strains arise and some are more deadly.
Vaccine protects and will will save lives, save you from getting serious COVID. Just not with 100% certainty.
right-wing people think of the world in binary good/bad units...the fact that vaccinated people challenge that binary concept
is hard for the right to grasp apparently, there are in fact degrees of covid sickness, how about that....now if a rightwinger can accept that perhaps they can outgrow a 12 year olds good/bad binary world view i always maintain hope...
hospital workers must remember the lollipop to get a better review
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