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The official CDC numbers of cases & deaths currently sits at 41,001,157 and 658.410. That gives a case fatality rate of about 1.6%, which is the figure being used in discussions. The cases are confirmed cases, not an actual count of the people who have been infected with the virus.
According to CDC estimates, however, the actual numbers of cases and deaths is more like 120,200,000 and 767,000, which gives a more accurate mortality rate of about 0.64%. The figure being used for discussion is two and a half times higher than the figure which is much closer to being accurate.
It feels like everything we're going through right now in the name of protecting us from this thing may be a bit of an overreaction, don't you think?
It feels like everything we're going through right now in the name of protecting us from this thing may be a bit of an overreaction, don't you think?
Yes. This is hysteria. I've been in close proximity of the SARS (the original SARS), Swine, H1N1, and MERS outbreaks, and I'm pretty sure I've been exposed to one or more of those viruses, COVID (which is a version of SARS - that's why it's SARS-CoV2) is a mild flu in comparison to those.
Based on the comorbidity numbers for obesity, I bet if everyone lost 20-50lbs our covid risk would go down significantly.
With the original SARS, if you catch it, you literally drop dead.
The case count is useful for tracking trends, and potential hospitalization rates. The latter determines at what point the medical facilities will be unable to handle the load, which drives a lot of the policy decisions. When your hospitals are full, the mortality rate will rise dramatically. Is it an over-reaction? Well I'm not callous enough to say yes just let them die.
The official CDC numbers of cases & deaths currently sits at 41,001,157 and 658.410. That gives a mortality rate of about 1.6%, which is the figure being used in discussions. The cases are confirmed cases, not an actual count of the people who have been infected with the virus.
According to CDC estimates, however, the actual numbers of cases and deaths is more like 120,200,000 and 767,000, which gives a more accurate mortality rate of about 0.64%, which is two and a half times higher than the figure being used in discussions.
It feels like everything we're going through right now in the name of protecting us from this thing may be a bit of an overreaction, don't you think?
The average morbidity rate of those who die of covid are FOUR, and the average age of death is older than the average age of life expectancy. If you remove those two factors and even take it down to just two morbidities, there’s only been about 60,000 deaths directly related to Covid in this country. What that means is that if those people weren’t in the category that I described in the first sentence here, there were only be about 60,000 deaths related to covid.
Yes, people are dying from and with Covid but mostly with. If you are in even average health, not like perfect Superman, health nut, kind of health just every day normal average healthy person they can walk a couple blocks down the road, you eat a couple veggies every day, you’re not morbidly obese, you don’t have underlining serious life-threatening health issues, you’re going to do just fine with Covid.
The official CDC numbers of cases & deaths currently sits at 41,001,157 and 658.410. That gives a mortality rate of about 1.6%, which is the figure being used in discussions. The cases are confirmed cases, not an actual count of the people who have been infected with the virus.
According to CDC estimates, however, the actual numbers of cases and deaths is more like 120,200,000 and 767,000, which gives a more accurate mortality rate of about 0.64%, which is two and a half times higher than the figure being used in discussions.
It feels like everything we're going through right now in the name of protecting us from this thing may be a bit of an overreaction, don't you think?
No, I don't think its over reaction. regardless of what the mortality rate is, the fact remains that 660,000 (or 767,000 by your stats) Americans have died in a little over a year. That's 20x a typical flu season. It makes Covid-19 the #1 cause of death in the US.
Case fatality rate, also called case fatality risk or case fatality ratio, in epidemiology, the proportion of people who die from a specified disease among all individuals diagnosed with the disease over a certain period of time.
Mortality rate, or death rate,[2]:189, 69 is a measure of the number of deaths (in general, or due to a specific cause) in a particular population, scaled to the size of that population, per unit of time. Mortality rate is typically expressed in units of deaths per 1,000 individuals per year; thus, a mortality rate of 9.5 (out of 1,000) in a population of 1,000 would mean 9.5 deaths per year in that entire population, or 0.95% out of the total.
The case count is useful for tracking trends, and potential hospitalization rates. The latter determines at what point the medical facilities will be unable to handle the load, which drives a lot of the policy decisions. When your hospitals are full, the mortality rate will rise dramatically. Is it an over-reaction? Well I'm not callous enough to say yes just let them die.
Trakcking cases,mass testing of the healthy and those without any symptom are also great ways to squander scarce resources.
It also makes for good (bad) headlines.
Last edited by Frank DeForrest; 09-14-2021 at 07:56 AM..
The case count is useful for tracking trends, and potential hospitalization rates. The latter determines at what point the medical facilities will be unable to handle the load, which drives a lot of the policy decisions. When your hospitals are full, the mortality rate will rise dramatically. Is it an over-reaction? Well I'm not callous enough to say yes just let them die.
Nobody's being callous here. This is a discussion about the data and the global response. There are plenty of threads you can get emotional in - let's try and keep this one fact based and objective, ok? Can we agree on that?
Viruses kill people. That's always been the case. Nobody wants anyone to die, but preserving biological life isn't the only consideration. Whether or not a person is alive isn't the only metric with value, when discussing impositions being placed on entire societies. If only life were that simple...
The official CDC numbers of cases & deaths currently sits at 41,001,157 and 658.410. That gives a mortality rate of about 1.6%, which is the figure being used in discussions. The cases are confirmed cases, not an actual count of the people who have been infected with the virus.
According to CDC estimates, however, the actual numbers of cases and deaths is more like 120,200,000 and 767,000, which gives a more accurate mortality rate of about 0.64%. The figure being used for discussion is two and a half times higher than the figure which is much closer to being accurate.
It feels like everything we're going through right now in the name of protecting us from this thing may be a bit of an overreaction, don't you think?
I think it is crazy. They are even proposing a mask mandate indoors in my county even if you are vaccinated!!!
The left is truly going crazy over this, but I honestly think the leftists are happiest if they are being punished and punishing everyone else. They are happiest in their own misery. If you live around a city, it is just horrible!
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