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Old 09-14-2021, 07:52 AM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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Case fatality rate, also called case fatality risk or case fatality ratio, in epidemiology, the proportion of people who die from a specified disease among all individuals diagnosed with the disease over a certain period of time.



Mortality rate, or death rate,[2]:189, 69 is a measure of the number of deaths (in general, or due to a specific cause) in a particular population, scaled to the size of that population, per unit of time. Mortality rate is typically expressed in units of deaths per 1,000 individuals per year; thus, a mortality rate of 9.5 (out of 1,000) in a population of 1,000 would mean 9.5 deaths per year in that entire population, or 0.95% out of the total.
Thanks for the correction.
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Old 09-14-2021, 07:53 AM
 
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The official CDC numbers of cases & deaths currently sits at 41,001,157 and 658.410. That gives a mortality rate of about 1.6%, which is the figure being used in discussions. The cases are confirmed cases, not an actual count of the people who have been infected with the virus.

According to CDC estimates, however, the actual numbers of cases and deaths is more like 120,200,000 and 767,000, which gives a more accurate mortality rate of about 0.64%. The figure being used for discussion is two and a half times higher than the figure which is much closer to being accurate.

It feels like everything we're going through right now in the name of protecting us from this thing may be a bit of an overreaction, don't you think?
i think the answer is YES.... and no.....

first the "no". total deaths are 650k (on the low side) that means this thing has jumped from nothing to the level of Heart attack and cancer. in a year. Its killing people. a LOT of people. So we need to take it seriously.

the YES. They are fudging the numbers to freak us out because the idiots in charge think the American public is too stupid to know the truth. and thats why we have the mess we have. They wont tell the truth, SO WE DONT TRUST THEM.

Then they make idiotic decisions. Second shot 3 weeks after the first. Dumb idea. it should be 6 months. Now we are talking booster. Why? because the second shot was too freaking soon.

the unvaxed are endangering the vaxed so get vaxed. Huh? Isnt getting vaxed the thing that makes you not be in danger? The message should be get vaxed SO YOU DONT DIE. But no.... the left cant talk like that. They have to go with "comply or else".

Then there is the mask thing. Get vaxed. vaxxed wear mask!!!!! so you dont give anyone COVID???? seriously?


It is mind boggling how stupid the leaders are and they moronically think we are the idiots.
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Old 09-14-2021, 07:58 AM
 
Location: Hoosierville
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The official CDC numbers of cases & deaths currently sits at 41,001,157 and 658.410. That gives a case fatality rate of about 1.6%, which is the figure being used in discussions. The cases are confirmed cases, not an actual count of the people who have been infected with the virus.

According to CDC estimates, however, the actual numbers of cases and deaths is more like 120,200,000 and 767,000, which gives a more accurate mortality rate of about 0.64%. The figure being used for discussion is two and a half times higher than the figure which is much closer to being accurate.

It feels like everything we're going through right now in the name of protecting us from this thing may be a bit of an overreaction, don't you think?
I've been posting the CDC's estimated covid burden for MONTHS. Close to a year probably.

And the same people who swear by every syllable uttered by the CDC and Fauci ignore it.

Covid is not, or was ever, going away.

What's truly borderline criminal though is the fascination with vaccines at the expense of treatment. It's sickening that there is not an approved treatment protocol for the average covid illness. None.
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Old 09-14-2021, 08:04 AM
 
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The average morbidity rate of those who die of covid are FOUR, and the average age of death is older than the average age of life expectancy. If you remove those two factors and even take it down to just two morbidities, there’s only been about 60,000 deaths directly related to Covid in this country. What that means is that if those people weren’t in the category that I described in the first sentence here, there were only be about 60,000 deaths related to covid.

Yes, people are dying from and with Covid but mostly with. If you are in even average health, not like perfect Superman, health nut, kind of health just every day normal average healthy person they can walk a couple blocks down the road, you eat a couple veggies every day, you’re not morbidly obese, you don’t have underlining serious life-threatening health issues, you’re going to do just fine with Covid.
!) I think you mean comorbidities
2) You apparently don't know what that means

If I get infected with Covid-19, and the viral infection causes me to have pneumonia and organ failure, the death certificate will list pneumonia and organ failure as comorbidities. But make no mistake: it was Covid-19 that killed me. The 660,000 death figure is accurate, or probably low.
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Old 09-14-2021, 08:08 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Dying with covid vs dying from covid is different.
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Old 09-14-2021, 08:11 AM
 
Location: Denver
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A disease that has a mortality rate of 0.64% with modern medicine is actually pretty dangerous. For instance, measles has a mortality rate of 0.1-0.2%, but it was known to cause death rates of up to 25% when too many people within a community got it within too short a time. This is due to the societal strain of everyone being sick at once.
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Old 09-14-2021, 08:19 AM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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What's truly borderline criminal though is the fascination with vaccines at the expense of treatment. It's sickening that there is not an approved treatment protocol for the average covid illness. None.
That's because if there were, the EUAs for the vaccines would be pulled. It's why they can't endorse ivermectin or HCQ for treating this. If they did, the money fountain our government gave to the pharma companies would shut off the moment the approval was signed.

It's the same reason that the "fully approved" Pfizer vaccine isn't yet available, and the version distributed under the EUA is. The Moderna & J&J shots need to receive approval before they can begin distributing the "approved" Pfizer shot, or the rivers of cash currently flowing to Moderna & J&J will dry up.

The whole thing is very corrupt, and as the hysterical crowd morbidly loves to point out, people are dying.
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Old 09-14-2021, 08:19 AM
 
Location: At the corner of happy and free
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!) I think you mean comorbidities
2) You apparently don't know what that means

If I get infected with Covid-19, and the viral infection causes me to have pneumonia and organ failure, the death certificate will list pneumonia and organ failure as comorbidities. But make no mistake: it was Covid-19 that killed me. The 660,000 death figure is accurate, or probably low.
I'm not sure you've got "comorbidity" quite right either.
Definition:
A comorbidity is simply defined as a pre-existing medical condition of a patient, or the presence of one or more medical conditions known to increase risk of death, that exist in addition to the most significant condition (usually recorded as the "most responsible diagnosis" on hospital discharge abstracts) that causes a patient's stay in the hospital.
Note: A comorbidity is different than a complication, which is considered a medical condition that arises during a hospital stay.

Term: Comorbidity / Comorbidities
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Old 09-14-2021, 08:25 AM
 
Location: At the corner of happy and free
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That's because if there were, the EUAs for the vaccines would be pulled. It's why they can't endorse ivermectin or HCQ for treating this. If they did, the money fountain our government gave to the pharma companies would shut off the moment the approval was signed.

It's the same reason that the "fully approved" Pfizer vaccine isn't yet available, and the version distributed under the EUA is. The Moderna & J&J shots need to receive approval before they can begin distributing the "approved" Pfizer shot, or the rivers of cash currently flowing to Moderna & J&J will dry up.

The whole thing is very corrupt, and as the hysterical crowd morbidly loves to point out, people are dying.
I agree, and ^^these^^ are some of the most disturbing parts of this whole situation. I don't know of any medication other than Ivermectin in which pharmacists would override a doctor's judgement by refusing to fill the Rx just because of the diagnosis. Off-label prescribing accounts for about 20% of all prescriptions! But we mustn't allow more evidence of an effective treatment for Covid, can we?
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Old 09-14-2021, 08:25 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Lots of variables regarding mortality rates.
https://www.science.org/action/doSea...mortality+rate
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