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Old 09-22-2021, 11:49 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Seems like government day care at $8.50 a day or $170 a month day care is not working out very well in Quebec which is a province of 8 million people.

They spend $2.8 billion on this government day care. The workers wages $12.42 Candian which is $9.74 US Dollars and they have 50,000 on the waiting list for government day care.

They estimate that 6 billion dollars would add make daycare available for 37,000 more which would mean they still have 14,000 on the waiting list despite an extra 6 billion dollars.

This is a province with the same population as New Jersey.

https://globalnews.ca/news/8088009/t...-announcement/

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montr...r-21-1.5732062

https://nationalpost.com/opinion/ran...idized-daycare
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Old 09-23-2021, 02:29 AM
 
Location: My house
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Because the people behind it all never ran a business but have plenty of theories on how to
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Old 09-23-2021, 03:17 AM
 
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It’s all good, because “they” will pay for it, said the socialist.
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Old 11-11-2021, 01:18 PM
 
Location: Montreal > Quebec > Canada
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Not sure what gives you the impression that the system doesn't work. Those who don't have access to public daycare simply go to a private one and are subsidized to cover the difference in costs. Quebec has one of the highest employment rate in the world, in part due to subsidized daycare.
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Old 11-11-2021, 01:42 PM
 
Location: Retired in VT; previously MD & NJ
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If it is such a bad program, as you say, then why so are many on a wait list? Sounds very successful to me.
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Old 11-11-2021, 01:49 PM
 
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$170/month for day care is incredible. Given how many people are on a waiting list, it seems this is an unmitigated success. Maybe we in the US should model ourselves after this.
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Old 11-11-2021, 01:53 PM
 
Location: California
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I love these types of systems because while everyone is arguing about the cost and whether it's a deal or not they completely ignore the biggest problem...who will be watching the kids?

I guess if you don't care, and would drop your tot off with anyone willing, this is great. But some of us are a little pickier and rando min wage government worker doesn't cut it.
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Old 11-11-2021, 02:07 PM
 
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American Public schools K-12 are essentially a day care as well. How is that working for California?
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Old 11-11-2021, 02:13 PM
 
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Doesnt Quebec also get a lot of free cash forked over to them by other provinces because the Canadien govt tells them so?

And they still cant pay for govt daycare?
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Old 11-11-2021, 10:11 PM
 
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Doesnt Quebec also get a lot of free cash forked over to them by other provinces because the Canadien govt tells them so?

And they still cant pay for govt daycare?
No, Quebec doesn't "get a lot of free cash forked over to them by other provinces because the Canadian Govt tells them so".

Under the Equalization Payments program, Quebec, Manitoba, Nova Scotia, New Brunswick and Prince Edward Island receive additional funds. Ontario has also received Equalization Payments in the past and it would not be surprising to me if Alberta received some in this or the next fiscal period.

The formula for calculating the funds has changed many times since the program was introduced.

The point now is to "ensure that provincial governments have sufficient revenues to provide reasonably comparable levels of public services at reasonably comparable levels of taxation". Quebec usually gets the most money because they are the 2nd most populated province. On a per resident basis, PEI can get twice as much per resident then Quebec but with a way lower population they get way less money.

And Quebec isn't the only province getting money for childcare. A national childcare system was one of the things that the Liberals could count on other political parties voting for if they put it in the budget. If you bother to read to the end of the first article, it does mention which provinces had already signed childcare deals with the Federal government by Aug 5/21 (the date of the article).
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