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Old 09-23-2021, 04:37 AM
 
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So kill off the vaccine, it's no longer needed. We have a therapeutics that works and the emergency authorization is now illegal.


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Using ivermectin early in the clinical course may reduce numbers progressing to severe disease. The apparent safety and low cost suggest that ivermectin is likely to have a significant impact on the SARS-CoV-2 pandemic globally.”

https://magainstitute.com/blockbuste...rmectin-works/

 
Old 09-23-2021, 05:11 AM
 
Location: Retired in VT; previously MD & NJ
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Maga institute? Really?
 
Old 09-23-2021, 05:26 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Originally Posted by TheGoodTheBadTheUgly View Post
So kill off the vaccine, it's no longer needed. We have a therapeutics that works and the emergency authorization is now illegal.

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Using ivermectin early in the clinical course may reduce numbers progressing to severe disease. The apparent safety and low cost suggest that ivermectin is likely to have a significant impact on the SARS-CoV-2 pandemic globally.

https://magainstitute.com/blockbuste...rmectin-works/


"MAY reduce numbers progressing to severe disease" isn't remotely close to a conclusive statement and it refers to those who've already contracted the disease. Personally, I prefer the vaccine and not getting the disease in the first place.
 
Old 09-23-2021, 05:34 AM
 
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Seriously? I encourage you to read the quote again.
 
Old 09-23-2021, 05:35 AM
 
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"MAY reduce numbers progressing to severe disease" isn't remotely close to a conclusive statement and it refers to those who've already contracted the disease. Personally, I prefer the vaccine and not getting the disease in the first place.
Don't you ever watch the drug commercials on TV?? Everything in medicine is a "May". BTW...the vaccines do not prevent you from catching COVID.
 
Old 09-23-2021, 05:38 AM
 
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Vaccines are so you prevent the need for therapeutics.
Vaccines do not prevent you from catching COVID or from requiring therapeutics if you get sick.
 
Old 09-23-2021, 05:39 AM
 
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"MAY reduce numbers progressing to severe disease" isn't remotely close to a conclusive statement and it refers to those who've already contracted the disease. Personally, I prefer the vaccine and not getting the disease in the first place.
Although you may prefer the vaccine . Which is totally fine. Have you researched long term data effects of mRNA spike protein booster shots for the rest of your life ?
 
Old 09-23-2021, 05:41 AM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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Personally, I prefer the vaccine and not getting the disease in the first place.
Huh? You think the "vaccine" (it's not, unless you got J&J) keeps you from getting it?

Oooohhh.... You're still thinking in terms of what the word "vaccine" used to mean. The CDC changed the definition over the past few years, you know. I even started a thread about that specifically, which nobody paid attention to.

The word "vaccine" was created from the Latin word for "cow" because the original smallpox inoculation involved infecting a person with a small sample of cowpox, so their bodies could learn to fight off smallpox. A vaccine is and has always been something which contained a small amount of what you're being vaccinated against, so your body could learn to fight it and keep you from getting it.

Now, "vaccine" means a therapy which reduces symptoms.

So no, sorry to break it to you, but the shot won't keep you from getting the disease. That's not what it's designed to do.

Even if you got the J&J shot, it's like taking last year's flu shot to try and beat this year's flu. Maybe it'll help, maybe not. It's not tuned to the right virus. All of these "vaccines" are based on the original strain of SARS-COV-2. They're not built to beat Delta or the other variants, and as the variants diverge even further from the original, they will be even less effective. This is basic logic and common sense.
 
Old 09-23-2021, 05:45 AM
 
Location: Huntsville
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So kill off the vaccine, it's no longer needed. We have a therapeutics that works and the emergency authorization is now illegal.




https://magainstitute.com/blockbuste...rmectin-works/

You should really make a little more effort to find data.

https://c19ivermectin.com/

These are all of the test cases for IVM. Read through them all. While they show some promise in certain cases, there are just as many that do not confirm whether or not it actually works.

Here are a few excerpts from the papers at that link:

"Since most patients have a low viral load at day 7, there is little room for improvement with a treatment at day 7....... 3 patients were hospitalized in the very high dose IVM arm versus 0 in the control arm."

"Retrospective 45 healthcare workers in Brazil, showing lower creation of antibodies with multiple doses of IVM, which may be expected due to the antiviral activity as demonstrated in multiple studies."

"Review concluding that the evidence supports worldwide use of IVM for COVID-19, complementary to immunization."

"Review on the nationwide implementation of COVID-19 inpatient and outpatient treatment protocols in Honduras, showing a case fatality rate decrease from 9.3% to 2.97%. Both inpatient and outpatient protocols include IVM as one component. No decrease was seen in Mexico, a similar Latin American country that did not introduce multi-drug treatment protocols at that time."
 
Old 09-23-2021, 05:46 AM
 
Location: My beloved Bluegrass
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Here is the actual study:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/art...H0ZC8Srryx5RNU

And here is the final paragraph in the conclusion:
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Given the evidence of efficacy, safety, low cost, and current death rates, ivermectin is likely to have an impact on health and economic outcomes of the pandemic across many countries. Ivermectin is not a new and experimental drug with an unknown safety profile. It is a WHO “Essential Medicine” already used in several different indications, in colossal cumulative volumes. Corticosteroids have become an accepted standard of care in COVID-19, based on a single RCT of dexamethasone.1 If a single RCT is sufficient for the adoption of dexamethasone, then a fortiori the evidence of 2 dozen RCTs supports the adoption of ivermectin.

Ivermectin is likely to be an equitable, acceptable, and feasible global intervention against COVID-19. Health professionals should strongly consider its use, in both treatment and prophylaxis.
The current US stance on Ivermectin is simply inexplicable and frankly borders on criminal.
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