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A nonsensical statement. With violence ongoing and people begging him to call it off, it goes straight to the heart of the question of whether he was condoning or endorsing the violence.
Actually, I made a factual statement versus your feelings on when because Trump should follow your timeline…and they left by curfew. If they wanted them gone sooner they should’ve made curfew earlier.
A nonsensical statement. With violence ongoing and people begging him to call it off, it goes straight to the heart of the question of whether he was condoning or endorsing the violence.
Yet you clearly are saying he is endorsing? So are you being honest or just gas lighting, because you got a new screen name?
You seem unwilling to acknowledge that Trump was unwilling to call off the violence for several hours. But that is the fact of what happened. I suspect you are not willing to acknowledge that fact because then you would be forced to contend with Trump's state of mind, which would be inconvenient if you still want to support him as a qualified leader/candidate.
You’re obviously unwilling to see that your feelings aren’t factual or show proof. You’ve gone from saying because Trump condoned violence without any proof to trying to use a timeline to try to reinforce your allegations.
I’ll certainly support him as a qualified leader/candidate. I also certainly want to see proof to your statements.
The facts clearly demonstrated that Trump endorsed the violence for several hours since he failed to call it off in that time even though people were pleading with him to do so. I don't know what you mean by new screen name.
You don't even agree with what you are saying:
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A nonsensical statement. With violence ongoing and people begging him to call it off, it goes straight to the heart of the question of whether he was condoning or endorsing the violence.
Sure you do, it means you said stupid crap, got booted, and then lied (providing another email address) to get back into CD. It's pretty simple.
You're failing to see that the timeline (in which he declined to call off the violence while being asked to do so) IS proof of his condoning violence during that period. He could have stopped it, he decided that would not be the best decision for several hours. Why do you think that was?
In other words, you have no proof that will hold up in court, only proof via speculation?
You're failing to see that the timeline (in which he declined to call off the violence while being asked to do so) IS proof of his condoning violence during that period. He could have stopped it, he decided that would not be the best decision for several hours. Why do you think that was?
This is to your post 319 above.
Why did you not quote the ENTIRE post of 318? Would you have to be honest if you answered or would you be embarrassed or both?
Post 318 is below and the only thing you quoted was the bold portion, why?
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You’re obviously unwilling to see that your feelings aren’t factual or show proof. You’ve gone from saying because Trump condoned violence without any proof to trying to use a timeline to try to reinforce your allegations.
I’ll certainly support him as a qualified leader/candidate. I also certainly want to see proof to your statements.
His actions were what did the talking on Jan 6th, not his words. You think it's untrue because you only seem willing to consider words that he spoke in public and not the actions that he took (or failed to take) in private.
Careful, you're going to pull a muscle stretching like that.
You've already lost this debate and now are twisted up like a pretzel trying to back pedal. Nothing Trump said, did, didn't say, or didn't do, caused the riots. I think this really comes down to the fact that, like all liberals, you can't seem to accept the notion of personal responsibility. Only those that participated in the riot are responsible. It's no more difficult than that. Are you an adult? When's the last time someone forced you to do something illegal? Even better, when was the last time you did something illegal because of a political speech?
Just because because Trump didn’t tell folks to go home when you thought he should means zero in regards to inciting or promoting violence. They left by curfew at 6pm. Had the curfew been earlier, that have likely left earlier.
You continue to provide no proof to your claims, only feelings.
You mean when they were breaking windows an assaulting guards it was no big deal to wait a few hours to call off the rioters from his rally, really. Just cutting off the vote certification was some minor incident.
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