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Old 10-16-2021, 08:13 PM
 
Location: Downtown Cranberry Twp.
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You mean when they were breaking windows an assaulting guards it was no big deal to wait a few hours to call off the rioters from his rally, really. Just cutting off the vote certification was some minor incident.
Do you have proof to because Trump condoning violence and/or inciting a riot?

Did he tell them to go home?

It’s interesting how folks think they were just going to stop in their tracks and leave immediately when because Trump said so. Did they go home as soon as he said go home? Nope, as curfew was at 6pm, and that’s when they left and thinking they were going to leave earlier is quite funny.
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Old 10-16-2021, 09:49 PM
 
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Nine months ago Grassley, Pence. McConnell and Graham condemned the riots, now we have Grassley attending Trump rallies and Graham attending Trump fund raisers.
Most Republicans are like everyone else: They believe the fake news media. In this case, they did a subsequent fact check and determined that January 6 was wildly exaggerated.
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Old 10-16-2021, 10:29 PM
 
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Most Republicans are like everyone else: They believe the fake news media. In this case, they did a subsequent fact check and determined that January 6 was wildly exaggerated.

Nah.


Grassley and Graham are just cowards who put their fingers up in the wind and determined which way it was blowing re the opinions of Republican voters.
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Old 10-17-2021, 06:24 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Do you have proof to because Trump condoning violence and/or inciting a riot?

Did he tell them to go home?

It’s interesting how folks think they were just going to stop in their tracks and leave immediately when because Trump said so. Did they go home as soon as he said go home? Nope, as curfew was at 6pm, and that’s when they left and thinking they were going to leave earlier is quite funny.
Yes at some point he sent one Tweet telling them to go home, he also praised them and told them he loved them.

He asked his supporters to march on the capital in his stop to steal rally, his speakers worked the crowd up into a frenzy so the result was pretty predictable from the caustic rhetoric of the speakers including Trump.. Yes they left around 6 PM after trashing the capitol and stopping the vote certification, their version of democracy at work. You're trying to make sense of a president holding a rally on the same day of the voter certification because he claimed massive fraud, do you know how crazy this sounds.

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9:00 a.m.: At start time on permit for First Amendment rally "March for Trump" speeches,[51] the "Save America" rally (or "March to Save America") begins. Above the podium at The Ellipse are banners for "Save America March".[71]
Mo Brooks (R–AL) makes a speech about "kicking ass", asking "Will you fight for America?

10:50 At start time on permit for First Amendment rally "March for Trump" speeches,[51] the "Save America" rally (or "March to Save America") begins. Above the podium at The Ellipse are banners for "Save America March".[71]
Mo Brooks (R–AL) makes a speech about "kicking ass", asking "Will you fight for America?: During Rudy Giuliani's speech he calls for "trial by combat".[75]

12:00 p.m.:
President Trump begins his over one-hour speech.[70] He repeats allegations that the election was stolen, criticizing Vice President Mike Pence by name a half-dozen times, accusing fellow Republicans of not doing enough to back up his allegations, and stating that he would walk with the crowd to the Capitol, though he retires to the White House immediately after the speech.[78]
A Federal Protective Service briefing email states that there are about 300 Proud Boys at the Capitol, a man in a tree near the Ellipse is holding what looks like a rifle, and some of the 25,000 people around the White House are hiding bags in bushes.[66] The email warns that the Proud Boys are threatening to shutdown the downtown water system.[66]
12:05 p.m.: Rep. Paul Gosar tweets that Biden should concede and demands his concession by the next morning.[79][80]
12:20 p.m.: A Federal Protective Service officer writes in an email, "POTUS is encouraging the protesters to march to capitol grounds and continue protesting there."[66]
12:28 p.m.: A Federal Protective Service officer reports 10,000-15,000 people moving towards the Capitol down Pennsylvania, Constitution, and Madison Avenues.[66]

Pro-Trump supporters gathering outside the east plaza of the Capitol at 12:09 p.m.
12:30 p.m.: Crowds of pro-Trump supporters gather outside the U.S. Capitol building.[81]
12:49 p.m.:
Capitol Police respond to a report of a possible explosive device at the Republican National Committee Headquarters, which is later identified as a pipe bomb. Shortly afterwards, a second pipe bomb is found at the headquarters of the Democratic National Committee.[82][81] Buildings next to these headquarters are evacuated.[83]
A police sweep of the area identifies a vehicle which held one handgun, an M4 Carbine assault rifle with loaded magazine, and components for 11 Molotov cocktails with homemade napalm. Around 6:30 p.m, the driver was apprehended carrying two unregistered handguns as he returned to the vehicle. He is not suspected of planting the pipe bombs.[83][84]
12:53 p.m.: Rioters overwhelm police along the outer perimeter west of the Capitol building, pushing aside temporary fencing. Some protesters immediately follow, while others, at least initially, remain behind and admonish the others: "Don't do it. You're breaking the law."[85] By 1:03 p.m., a vanguard of rioters have overrun three layers of barricades and have forced police officers to the base of the west Capitol steps.[82]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeli...Capitol_attack
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Old 10-17-2021, 06:44 AM
 
Location: Downtown Cranberry Twp.
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Yes at some point he sent one Tweet telling them to go home, he also praised them and told them he loved them.

He asked his supporters to march on the capital in his stop to steal rally, his speakers worked the crowd up into a frenzy so the result was pretty predictable from the caustic rhetoric of the speakers including Trump.. Yes they left around 6 PM after trashing the capitol and stopping the vote certification, their version of democracy at work. You're trying to make sense of a president holding a rally on the same day of the voter certification because he claimed massive fraud, do you know how crazy this sounds.




https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeli...Capitol_attack
You’re trying to say he condoned the violence and incited a riot. Neither is the case.
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Old 10-17-2021, 06:59 AM
 
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Five people died, and three police committed suicide subsequent to the events.

We are tired of the Trumpi-Q lies and cover up. You people need to stop.
If you have proof to the lies you speak of, I’m sure folks would love to see it. Until then, because Trump wasn’t at the WH, and you have no idea that he was enthralled. The fact is that he told folks to go home and they left peacefully at curfew.
After Trump sent his minions down to Capitol Hill, Trump was WATCHING it all on TV at the white house. He was accompanied by others at the white house, like Mark Meadows

(Shortly before (before 1PM) the bomb threat was called in, two set of bombs were discovered at the two political party headquarters. This was clearly timed to coincide with Trump launching the ginned up mob, to distract the police and shows pre-planning ans coordination. Republicans don't want to know who planned this and unsuccessfully tried to block the formation of a bi-partisan commission to examine these details.)

TRUMP CULT FOLLOWERS breached the barricade before 1 PM ... a crime. Trump knew this. He saw it unfold on television.

So Trump already knew that the following he had sent down to the capitol building were committing crimes in his name by 1:00 PM.

Did he call them back at 1:10PM? ... 1:15PM? ... 1:25PM?

... 1:45PM?

... 2:00PM? ... no not even at 2:00 PM nor at 3:00 PM eirieguy. So you tell us.

When ... when did he call off the dogs erieguy?

When?
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Old 10-17-2021, 07:02 AM
 
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Nah.


Grassley and Graham are just cowards who put their fingers up in the wind and determined which way it was blowing re the opinions of Republican voters.
What you are actually saying is that rebups think for themselves and the dopes on the left only listen to pelosi and say exactly what she tells them to say. That sounds about right.
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Old 10-17-2021, 07:54 AM
 
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Nine months ago Grassley, Pence. McConnell and Graham condemned the riots, now we have Grassley attending Trump rallies and Graham attending Trump fund raisers.





https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-...gop-s-n1281026
As usual msnbc has it's fact wrong and you buy it hook, lone and sinker!
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Old 10-17-2021, 08:30 AM
 
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Nine months ago Grassley, Pence. McConnell and Graham condemned the riots, now we have Grassley attending Trump rallies and Graham attending Trump fund raisers.

https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-...gop-s-n1281026
Politics.

The dems are floundering.

Like I always say; can't find a full sack between the lot of them.

They need to reign in their members and stop playing McConnells game. When Trump had all houses of government; he didn't fail to pass **** because the Republicans couldn't do it... McConnell simply didn't want to do more than they did. While here... Dems can't accomplish anything and their biggest roadblock is themselves.

Given the dysfunction of the dems... McConnell, Graham, and Grassley are using the dems weakness to push for taking back seats. McConnell is using Trump to further his needs just like he did the past few years. I highly doubt McConnell actually wants anything to do with Trump. When Trump was in the White House who do you think actually had more power... Trump or McConnell? The answer isn't Trump...
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Old 10-17-2021, 08:37 AM
 
Location: 23.7 million to 162 million miles North of Venus
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After Trump sent his minions down to Capitol Hill, Trump was WATCHING it all on TV at the white house. He was accompanied by others at the white house, like Mark Meadows

(Shortly before (before 1PM) the bomb threat was called in, two set of bombs were discovered at the two political party headquarters. This was clearly timed to coincide with Trump launching the ginned up mob, to distract the police and shows pre-planning ans coordination. Republicans don't want to know who planned this and unsuccessfully tried to block the formation of a bi-partisan commission to examine these details.)

TRUMP CULT FOLLOWERS breached the barricade before 1 PM ... a crime. Trump knew this. He saw it unfold on television.

So Trump already knew that the following he had sent down to the capitol building were committing crimes in his name by 1:00 PM.

Did he call them back at 1:10PM? ... 1:15PM? ... 1:25PM?

... 1:45PM?

... 2:00PM? ... no not even at 2:00 PM nor at 3:00 PM eirieguy. So you tell us.

When ... when did he call off the dogs erieguy?

When?
"Trump was WATCHING it all on TV at the white house...FOLLOWERS breached the barricade before 1 PM ... a crime. Trump knew this. He saw it unfold on television"

Trump was not at the white house at or before 1PM. He was still at the rally, speaking until 1:10PM...at which time he had told them to be peaceful.

He tweeted at 2:38PM - calling for them to be peaceful and support the cops.
He tweeted at 3:13PM - calling for them to be peaceful and respect the cops.
He tweeted at 4:17PM - uploaded a video calling for peace and denouncing the riots.
He tweeted at 6:01PM - calling for peace and for them to go home.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeli...anuary_6,_2021


As for the bomb threats, why do you think they are being absolutely silent on who it is that had set the bombs? Surely they know who did it, they have access to all of the cameras and video across the city. Using all of the video from businesses and street cameras, they could have tracked the person to their car, home, motel, or where ever. If it had been a Trump supporter then that would have been on the news 24/7. Seems fishy that they're so quiet about who had done it.
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