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Anyone who is a Holocaust denier should not be heard.
That's intellectual laziness.
Assuming that the Holocaust denier is being genuine and not a troll, of course an opportunity should be made for debate, so facts can be discussed, so the denier can be asked why he/she holds such viewpoints, etc.
Only a small percentage of Germans killed Jews, why should all Germans feel guilty.
The indifference of the population to atrocities matters.
I don't believe the educator actually meant what she said, just making a point through hyperbole to warn the teachers that some parents will use any excuse to attack the school.
Modern day Germans should not feel guilty unless they were alive and participated in the atrocities. If they did they should absolutely feel guilty. Slavery also ended 70+ years before the holocaust started, so it’s quite a bit further back in history. The Holocaust also happened in a MUCH shorter time span. Millions killed in approx 10 years. There was no friendly Holocaust and we do know there were some slave owners who treated slaves well, comparatively.
1. The slave labor/death camps were all located in Polish territory. There were prison camps located on German soil too, but no mass executions or deaths took place in the German camps, aside from prisoners who died from being malnourished or starved at the end of the war due to lack of supplies.
2. The Nazi propaganda stated that Jews were trouble makers and that they were being rounded up to be deported out of Europe.
The Nazi propaganda never mentioned anything about mass killing Jewish people or anyone else for that matter.
What? 100,000 dead at Sachsenhausen, in Germany. Genocide is genocide, be it the gas chamber or being worked or starved to death.
What? 100,000 dead at Sachsenhausen, in Germany. Genocide is genocide, be it the gas chamber or being worked or starved to death.
It's important to realize that Germany ran out of supplies, including medical aid & food, in the last few months of the war. Allied bombers destroyed trains, roads, bridges, and vehicles that delivered supplies, and also bombed factories and warehouses that produced or stored supplies. That's an unfortunate side-effect of war.
Also, the number of dead at Sachsenhausen was around 30,000 according to online sources.
War War II was basically one giant humanicide.
The Nazis and Imperial Japanese were terrible.
But what the allies did to Dresden and Nagasaki was equally terrible and unnecessary imho.
It's important to realize that Germany ran out of supplies, including medical aid & food, in the last few months of the war. Allied bombers destroyed trains, roads, bridges, and vehicles that delivered supplies, and also bombed factories and warehouses that produced or stored supplies. That's an unfortunate side-effect of war.
Also, the number of dead at Sachsenhausen was around 30,000 according to online sources.
War War II was basically one giant humanicide.
The Nazis and Imperial Japanese were terrible.
But what the allies did to Dresden and Nagasaki was equally terrible and unnecessary imho.
Soooo, you’re telling me those 30,000 died in the last few months of the war? Seriously? Everything was completely fine at the concentration camp in the years before that? Yeah, it’s the Allies fault, the Germans had nothing to do with the all of the deaths at a concentration camp in Germany. Good luck selling that one.
The question is did the average German citizen know the military was killing Jews?
The allies first declaration about the German extermination of Jews dates from December 1942. The first news reports date from June 1942. The British had intelligence about the Holocaust from 1941.
People certainly knew the Jews were being deported. There was some willful ignorance about what was happening to them.
That's intellectual laziness.
Assuming that the Holocaust denier is being genuine and not a troll, of course an opportunity should be made for debate, so facts can be discussed, so the denier can be asked why he/she holds such viewpoints, etc.
I don't really want to hear from a Holocaust denier why he thinks the way he does. He is wrong for thinking that way. I always thought it was common sense not to deny the Holocaust. I understand there are some movies that embellish and exaggerate things. However, everything I've read from age 9 to now (I'm 35 now) shows me that there is no excuse for denying the Holocaust. We have photographs. The way I see it, anyone who denies the Holocaust is a bigot and an anti-Semite, period. I don't want to hear from said person.
Modern day Germans should not feel guilty unless they were alive and participated in the atrocities. If they did they should absolutely feel guilty. Slavery also ended 70+ years before the holocaust started, so it’s quite a bit further back in history. The Holocaust also happened in a MUCH shorter time span. Millions killed in approx 10 years. There was no friendly Holocaust and we do know there were some slave owners who treated slaves well, comparatively.
No idea why the time period or duration is important the fact remains that many people just ignored the atrocities of slavery. How does one balance out the history of slavery in this country, that is the point of why the Texas legislature is passing these bills.
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No, they didn't.
1. The slave labor/death camps were all located in Polish territory. There were prison camps located on German soil too, but no mass executions or deaths took place in the German camps, aside from prisoners who died from being malnourished or starved at the end of the war due to lack of supplies.
2. The Nazi propaganda stated that Jews were trouble makers and that they were being rounded up to be deported out of Europe.
The Nazi propaganda never mentioned anything about mass killing Jewish people or anyone else for that matter.
They must have.
The towns around the concentration camps wreaked of death.
Jews were being taken out on trains by the masses.
They knew.
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