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Old 11-14-2021, 05:32 PM
 
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There will always be a few loons out there who think America should be a theocracy. I don’t see it as anything more than that.

However, it is troubling that someone who held a high position in the U.S. government would say something so un-American. Hopefully, it was a slip of the tongue.
It won't be US. It will be global.

big Big BIG picture.
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Old 11-14-2021, 05:36 PM
 
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Meh. Democrats worship at the church of Anthony Fauci.

At least Christ is dead and can't run the country into the ground in real time.
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Old 11-14-2021, 05:54 PM
 
Location: Berwick, Penna.
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I'm assuming he means something post-Jewish and pre-Muslim. Does he say which particular version of Catholic or Protestant religion he considers to be the one? There's so many choices.
And I'm assuming he means something post-Judaism and post-Islam. That puts all the monotheistic religions in one box. You can add atheism/agnosticism to that group since their beliefs (or non-beliefs) are usually about a single deity. And buddhiam and Comfucianism are more philosophical then religious.

That leaves only the more exotic beliefs, such as paganism and nature/ancestor worship on the outside. and they're usually content to be left alone.

Nothing to be alarmed about here -- save in the mindset if the ultra-Left (who can be as paranoiac as any Klansman or Bircher -- just in another direction), and need someone new to demonize from time to time.

And it wouldn't suprise me to learn that Flynn threw this one out just to watch the kiddies foul their britches -- or diapers.
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Old 11-14-2021, 05:59 PM
 
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And I'm assuming he means something post-Judaism and post-Islam. That puts all the monotheistic religions in one box. You can add atheism/agnosticism to that group since their beliefs (or non-beliefs) are usually about a single deity. And buddhiam and Comfucianism are more philosophical then religious.

That leaves only the more exotic beliefs, such as paganism and nature/ancestor worship on the outside. and they're usually content to be left alone.

Nothing to be alarmed about here -- save in the mindset if the ultra-Left (who can be as paranoiac as any Klansman or Bircher -- just in another direction), and need someone new to demonize from time to time.

And it wouldn't suprise me to learn that Flynn threw this one out just to watch the kiddies foul their britches -- or diapers.
Post Judaism and pre Islam is likely just referring to Christianity. Post Judaism and post Islam would just reduce to post Islam.
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Old 11-14-2021, 06:28 PM
 
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I prefer atheism to Christianity. No one kills people in the name of atheism, unlike Christians, Muslims, Hindus, Jews, and even some Buddhists in the name of their religion.

(And yes, atheists like Stalin and Pol Pot killed millions... but not in the name of atheism. BTW, the favorite trope of Hitler being atheist is wrong... he was a devout Christian.)
Hitler was baptised & raised Catholic but became very anti-religion, other than saying positive things about Islam. He was far from devout.
Himmler & Goebbels were also raised Catholic, but abandoned the faith and the odious Himmler even tried to bring back the beliefs of the ancient Teutons & Germanic tribes.
Stalin was a seminarian at one time, but decided bank robbing suited him better. His mother remained a devout Orthodox believer her whole life.
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Old 11-14-2021, 06:33 PM
 
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Interested to see how the conservatives here on City-Data feel about this.

Does the C-D Trump crowd feel that Christianity should be the one and only religion in America?
I'm a conservative, NOT a Trumper, and my answer is no.
Do people forget that, outside of the Orthodox Byzantine Empire, which was mainly Middle Eastern anyway, Western Europe followed the same Catholic religion until the Reformation?
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Old 11-14-2021, 07:06 PM
 
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How do you broad brush blacks? Gay's? Left wingers? Feminists?

Just curious or are you just a lazy, sociopolitical one trick pony?
Well, next time a gay person or feminist or left winger or African American propose legislation to ban abortion or roll back gay rights or hinder voting by certain groups or try to force their religion down my throat, I’ll call them out too. But, for now it’s just the right wingers who are doing that.
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Old 11-14-2021, 07:08 PM
 
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I'm a conservative, NOT a Trumper, and my answer is no.
Do people forget that, outside of the Orthodox Byzantine Empire, which was mainly Middle Eastern anyway, Western Europe followed the same Catholic religion until the Reformation?
The Western Enlightenment, which spawned Western democracy, was a secular movement that embraced logic, rational thought, math, and science.
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Old 11-14-2021, 07:17 PM
 
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What he said is a bit confusing and not really clear. It's kind of open-ended. He didn't say one specific religion and God could be taken to mean a lot of things. Budda, Allah, God ... they all mean the same thing. A higher deity, although given the audience it could be inferred that he meant Christianity.

In any case, I disagree with this kind of preaching. The U.S. was founded in part on the freedom of religion or rather the freedom from religion, which at the time was the oppressive Church of England.

I think that he was largely preaching to the choir here. It's his opinion and doesn't mean much more than that. It's not going to change anything with regards to how one worships or not, and what one's beliefs are if they have any.

The "oppressive Church of England"? First, most organized religion is "oppressive," imo. Second, the Church of England has nothing on the Church of Rome when it comes to oppression. That's another topic.

Since his surname is Flynn, he might mean the Roman Catholic Church. It would make sense, because Roman Catholics are taught that Roman Catholicism is the one true religion, and that followers of other religions are heathens.
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Old 11-14-2021, 07:19 PM
 
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Yes, most do.

What Flynn is advocating -- on the sly -- is an official state religion like the Church of England where the monarch (or president) is head of church. This would also mean only one sect of Christianity, whatever that is, will be in government. This would also eventually lead to some form of racial biases, and fools be whoever thinks otherwise, in government.

We should not press Flynn. Let him talk. The more unprompted the better. Religious fanatics cannot help but reveals themselves. I hope we are wrong about him, but let him talk.

Flynn is an Irish Catholic name, so I doubt he'd be advocating for the Church of England.
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