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Old 05-19-2008, 11:55 AM
 
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Originally Posted by burdell View Post
Number one I doubt your as usual unsubstantiated figure and number two it's meaningless without knowing what amount your alleged 8% was generated from.

It's like saying a man who paid $10,000 in taxes paid his fair share.

If he paid on an income of $60K maybe he did, if he paid on an income of $5M I'd say he didn't.
Fiscal year 2004, $2.3 Trillion dollar budget United States federal budget - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Fiscal year 2004, $160Billion paid by oil companies in taxes.
The Tax Foundation - Oil Company Profits and Tax Collections: Does the U.S. Need a New Windfall Profits Tax?

= 6.9% of the operating capital of the federal government.

 
Old 05-19-2008, 11:56 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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In Nevada - Yes, Gaming pays a portion as do property taxes.

Where I live in AZ - is so rural, we don't have any property taxes allocated towards schools or fire protection


But if the schools are partially financed by property taxes than property owners without children in those schools are financing them in NY, right?
 
Old 05-19-2008, 11:57 AM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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I'm going to venture that GD will reply that schools are subsidized by others and that he managed to "beat the system" by avoiding taxation and still gets a free service.
Actually, when we bought this parcel to build our home on, I had no idea there was no portion of the property taxes going towards schools (we knew about the fire). It was actually surprising.

There are several area in AZ like this - part of the original Sun City (in Western Maricopa County, they don't pay school taxes either)

And, I have no idea what you mean by "free service" - What "free service are you saying I get?
 
Old 05-19-2008, 11:57 AM
 
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Yeah, there is no benefit to a household without children in a given community for the children of others in that community to be in school. hahahaha, love that thinking!
Who said anything about the kids not being in school?
 
Old 05-19-2008, 11:57 AM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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Hence my mafia analogy. "Fair" is what the state, which has a monopoly over legitimate use of force, determines it is.

The "state" operates under democratic processes, if you hadn't noticed. The decisions are made by elected representatives. Unlike the Mafia, if you hadn't noticed.

hahahaha

This is much better than watching "Ren and Stimpy" cartoons!
 
Old 05-19-2008, 11:58 AM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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But if the schools are partially financed by property taxes than property owners without children in those schools are financing them in NY, right?
I have no idea about New York law / taxes.
 
Old 05-19-2008, 11:58 AM
 
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The "state" is a function of democratic processes, if you hadn't noticed. The decisions are made by elected representatives. Unlike the Mafia, if you hadn't noticed.

hahahaha
The Holocaust was the function of democratic processes.
 
Old 05-19-2008, 11:59 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Fiscal year 2004, $2.3 Trillion dollar budget United States federal budget - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Fiscal year 2004, $160Billion paid by oil companies in taxes.
The Tax Foundation - Oil Company Profits and Tax Collections: Does the U.S. Need a New Windfall Profits Tax?

= 6.9% of the operating capital of the federal government.


You said 8% and now it's 6.9%? READY! FIRE! AIM! Again?

And it's STILL meaningless without knowing what income it was based on.
 
Old 05-19-2008, 11:59 AM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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The Holocaust was the function of democratic processes.
hahahaha, you're killing me with your "out of the box" thought processes!

hahahaha

Tell us also how the Third Reich operated as a democracy!

hahahaha
 
Old 05-19-2008, 12:01 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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I have no idea about New York law / taxes.
How about NV?
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