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The trial of his killers is going on now. For a recap, Ahmaud was a black man that was out jogging. Neighbors in the area (supposedly) didn't recognize him, and confronted him. They were armed and the incident ended up with Ahmaud being shot and killed.
Now-my hypothetical question for those on the left, and especially for those that whined and cried over the Rittenhouse decision. Lets say Arbery had been carrying a concealed handgun on his jog. And when confronted by armed men, used it to defend himself from the perceived threat-would you support his choice? Why or why not? He'd have had as much (or little) reason to be in that neighborhood as Kyle did in Kenosha. If you deny the right to self defense to one-why not the other? Certainly Rittenhouse was in greater perceived danger, since he wasn't facing 3 men, but an enraged mob.
BTW, in my opinion, it is beyond question-Arbery had every right to defend his life. As did Rittenhouse.
im not a leftist and i dont mean to derail your hypothetical, but I can answer this question from the perspective of the progressive.
the hypothetical doesnt apply because defending yourself isnt the issue. They will say that Arbery would be justified because he was attacked.
Kyle wasnt justified because he was attacked by progressives who were rioting and they want to protect rioters who are rioting if the rioting is on behalf of a progressive political position. (this is really what the Rittenhouse thing was all about).
IMHO, Arbery was murderd..... and would have been justified using deadly force if he had been armed. (but I am not a progressive and dont believe people get to attack other people.)
Well for Arbery’s situation to match up with Kyle, there would already have to be a tense volatile situation like a riot happening that Arbery has nothing to do with, but inserted himself into with a gun.
And Arbery would have had to have worked in the area, had family members there and had been asked to help protect property there, which applied to Kyle.
Each case should be judged on its own merits, not media propaganda.
Hate to burst your bubble OP, but many people on the left own guns and believe in self defense too...It's a shame Arbery was not armed that day.
My issue with Rittenhouse is a 17 year old can't vote, buy cigarettes or alcohol legally, get married or join the military. So if a minor is not mature enough to do any of those things -- WTF should they be allowed to carry an AR15 in public??? Where the hell were his parents at??? Sounds like his parents are both pretty neglectful to me...My 17 year old is not going down to a riot and especially not with any of our guns. That kid is going to keep getting in trouble - mark my words.
And Arbery would have had to have worked in the area, had family members there and had been asked to help protect property there, which applied to Kyle.
Each case should be judged on its own merits, not media propaganda.
And have spent the time cleaning up vandalism, providing first aid to victims and putting out arson fires.
I mean, after all, this wasn't his neighborhood-why was he there? [\sarcasm]
Hate to burst your bubble OP, but many people on the left own guns and believe in self defense too...
My issue with Rittenhouse is a 17 year old can't vote, buy cigarettes or alcohol legally, get married or join the military. So if a minor is not mature enough to do any of those things -- WTF should they be allowed to carry an AR15 in public??? Where the hell were his parents at??? Duh...
And that has to do with what, exactly? His age doesn't preclude his right to defend his life from multiple, vicious criminal attacks. BTW, not positive, but I think 17 YOs can join the military-at worst he was only a few months from his 18th birthday.
Now, can we get on point? Should Arbery have been able to defend his life (had he had the means)? He didn't live in that neighborhood, didn't have relatives there (as Rittenhouse did in Kenosha).
I'm shocked I tell you. After page after page, comment after comment from some of our resident leftists denouncing Kyle Rittenhouse for defending his life with a firearm, I have to say, I expected them to be consistent, and vote NO on Arbery's exercising that same right. Yet we have no progressives participating in the conversation and attacking pro-self-defense people that are supporting his right to do so. Odd how that is, isn't it? A group that never misses an opportunity to attack those that protect themselves...refuse to do so in this (admittedly hypothetical) case? I was really hoping that they would participate and explain why Arbery should not be allowed to defend his life...because, frankly, I don't understand their logic. At least we have one voter that seems to be consistent though, in both cases.
The trial of his killers is going on now. For a recap, Ahmaud was a black man that was out jogging. Neighbors in the area (supposedly) didn't recognize him, and confronted him. They were armed and the incident ended up with Ahmaud being shot and killed.
Now-my hypothetical question for those on the left, and especially for those that whined and cried over the Rittenhouse decision. Lets say Arbery had been carrying a concealed handgun on his jog. And when confronted by armed men, used it to defend himself from the perceived threat-would you support his choice? Why or why not? He'd have had as much (or little) reason to be in that neighborhood as Kyle did in Kenosha. If you deny the right to self defense to one-why not the other? Certainly Rittenhouse was in greater perceived danger, since he wasn't facing 3 men, but an enraged mob.
BTW, in my opinion, it is beyond question-Arbery had every right to defend his life. As did Rittenhouse.
Arbery was out for a simple jog. Rittenhouse crossed the state line with an AR looking to use it.
Not even close to a comparable situation. That said, I wish Arbery had pulled a sawed-off 12 gauge and smoked all three of the racist clowns.
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