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Old 12-05-2021, 08:14 PM
 
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Like I said in my previous posts, it doesn't matter if you were married to a Mexican or Salvadoreña or what you eat. They don't have U.S. citizenship, Puerto Rico has for over 123 years.

Your proposal is not only cuckoo but insulting to millions of Americans. When the U.S. makes a territory with full jurisdiction and U.S. Citizenship is not to later give them independence but statehood. Name me 1 precedent that the U.S. made a U.S. territory to later be independent? name 1? I can name you 37 times that territories became states but not 1 the other way around. So that kills your wishful thinking.
123 years and no statehood. That should probably tell you something.

There is nothing that forbids Puerto Rican independence. You have voted on it in the past. You could be the first. You complain you are not getting a fair shake. And I don't want Greenland. They should be independent also. All territories should be. At least the ones the US controls.

 
Old 12-05-2021, 08:27 PM
 
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123 years and no statehood. That should probably tell you something.

There is nothing that forbids Puerto Rican independence. You have voted on it in the past. You could be the first. You complain you are not getting a fair shake. And I don't want Greenland. They should be independent also. All territories should be. At least the ones the US controls.
How long it took the U.S. to give African-Americans civil rights? 180 years. We didn't kick them out or gave them their own country, we finally fixed it. It works great today. See how the U.S. works? slow but you get the idea.

Do you understand that a vote which is private doesn't strip your citizenship. Let's pretend the U.S. no longer wants the real estate. All you are doing is pushing 3.5 million citizens to the states. They are still protected.

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Old 12-06-2021, 12:55 AM
 
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123 years and no statehood. That should probably tell you something.

There is nothing that forbids Puerto Rican independence. You have voted on it in the past. You could be the first. You complain you are not getting a fair shake. And I don't want Greenland. They should be independent also. All territories should be. At least the ones the US controls.
Absolutely 100% no statehood and they have voted for it in the past. Actually not all Puerto Ricans want to be part of the US. There is a movement for independence also in PR.
 
Old 12-06-2021, 09:14 AM
 
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Absolutely 100% no statehood and they have voted for it in the past. Actually not all Puerto Ricans want to be part of the US. There is a movement for independence also in PR.

There are tiny movements for independence in Texas, California, Hawaii and Vermont. They all have official political parties in the states. We also have the movement of the Republic of New Afrika, a black nationalist movement for independence in the states since 1968 and other groups.

Nobody takes them serious except you 2 for Puerto Rico which is 3% of the electorate (the majority ) Not only you all flunk American Civics in school but think 3% is higher than 97%.


You 2 also called in sick in history class. The last time states went independent (and this time with a MAJORITY of the electorate and a real Army) they got a beat down and forced back to the Union. So basically there is no precedent.


U.S. Citizens are a protected class and the U.S. is not in the business of giving real estate away.


Just stop and just move to Greenland. It's cheaper, legal and a reality and leave P.R. alone .
 
Old 12-06-2021, 10:08 AM
 
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Just stop and just move to Greenland. It's cheaper, legal...
Unless you're a citizen of a Nordic country, gaining legal residence in Greenland is quite hard.
 
Old 12-06-2021, 10:12 AM
 
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What do all U.S. Citizens have in common regardless of skin color? They are all a protected class in the U.S. Can somebody take out the crayons for TBCasino because it went over his head 3 times and still doesn't get it. I don't know what red hats has to do with this since the majority of nationalist movements in Hawaii, California, Vermont, Black Nationalists and Puerto Rican nationalists are left wing socialist movements. He doesn't know that.
 
Old 12-06-2021, 10:23 AM
 
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Unless you're a citizen of a Nordic country, gaining legal residence in Greenland is quite hard.

It only has 56,000 people. I don't see a lot of foreigners wanting to move up there. It's a lot colder than Iceland.
 
Old 12-06-2021, 10:26 AM
 
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It only has 56,000 people. I don't see a lot of foreigners wanting to move up there. It's a lot colder than Iceland.
It's a tough place to live. Still hard to legally move to.
 
Old 12-06-2021, 10:28 AM
 
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Has anyone asked the people of Greenland?

You could ask the same about Denmark's role there too by the way.
 
Old 12-06-2021, 10:38 AM
 
Location: The High Desert
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Just drag Greenland far south enough to grow palm trees.
Just wait a few years. I saw palm trees in Dublin, Ireland.

Denmark already had the Virgin Islands off and on since the 1600s and sold them to the US in 1917. Why would they decide to take on the burden of administering Puerto Rico?
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