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Seriously, its not painfully obvious that that northern cities have more culinary diversity? Do people not do any research before they pick up stakes and move to an area.
When its put forth "food in the south is inferior", "food in the north is much better", etc. etc. that is not a statement on availability.
I dont think anyone is offended by preference just stop whining about it and constantly telling people how much better everything is where they came from.
I've never heard food in the south is inferior -- most of the time it is -- you just can't get the same food.
And I don't know -- do people whine about it -or just note that there is a difference in availability.
I've lived in the southeast for 24 years....and while we looked at many factors when making our first move from Canada to Georgia -- what restaurants were available somehow didn't make the list -- lol.
I've never heard food in the south is inferior -- most of the time it is -- you just can't get the same food.
And I don't know -- do people whine about it -or just note that there is a difference in availability.
I've lived in the southeast for 24 years....and while we looked at many factors when making our first move from Canada to Georgia -- what restaurants were available somehow didn't make the list -- lol.
I kinda whine about it, but some of that disparity disappears in larger cities.
I’m moving to NYS probably next year and I’ll whine about the dearth of Mexican food without a doubt, and probably the lack of a good chicken fried steak or fried okra. Lack of Mexican food is going to hurt. But I’ll also be able to explore more East coasty things like various Caribbean cuisines.
Why I moved from upstate NY to Charlotte NC in 1997:
Charlotte was booming....so more jobs at higher pay rates.
Lower taxes and lower cost of living.
Those factors are directly a result of the political climate.
The weather for me is kind of a wash.
The long, hot, humid summers in the South are equally miserable to the sub zero temperature winters in the North.
Upstate New York has nothing in common with NYC. Two completely different places. And yes, in NC you have Charlotte and Raleigh. You also have Kinston, Salisbury, and the areas of eastern NC, which aren't doing as well.
For every Atlanta, Charlotte, and Nashville, you have a the Mississippi Delta, the AL Black Belt, etc. For every Huntsville, Chattanooga, and Charleston, you have a Jackson, Birmingham, and Albany (GA).
Huntsville and Birmingham share the same state, Alabama. Huntsville, as of 2020, passed Birmingham has the largest city in Alabama. Birmingham went from 340,887 in 1960 to 201,194 in 2021. Huntsville went from 72,365 in 1960 (up from 16,437 in 1950) to 215,006 in 2020. Huntsville is thriving while Birmingham is declining and one of the most violent cities in America.
Take another state. Wisconsin. Milwaukee and Madison. Milwaukee has declined rapidly in the last 40 years. Madison has grown significantly.
I've gone hiking in very cold weather, and hot, humid weather. I'd rather hike in subzero temperatures. At least I can put more clothes on. Hot, humid weather, I can only take so much off before it becomes a legal matter.
I lived in Chicago for many years and never once met anyone with a Southern accent unless they were a tourist. I did meet and know a lot of people who were planning a move to a place with lots of Southern accents, however.
Most Chicago natives have Polish, Norwegian, German, French, or other Eastern European ancestry.
I have relatives from Chicago and Milwaukee. Alot of WHITES have Polish, Norwegian, and German ancestry. White population in those cities declined over the last 40 years. Blacks are 28% and 38% of Chicago and Milwaukee's populations, respectively. And Blacks, thanks to many factors, are more likely to have a southern-sounding dialect than anyone else in Chicago and Milwaukee.
And Blacks who move South, often move to places with a lesser likelihood of hearing southern accents, such as Atlanta, Charlotte, and Northern Virginia.
So within the context of your post... the claim you made was, people moving south are bringing their "better' (inferred) civilization with them, there by making southerners more 'civilized'... do I have it right?
Lots of old Victorian houses up north.
But my issue with architecture in the South has nothing to do with what homes look like.
It's the way they're built.
Homes in the South don't have to be built to withstand the heavy snow loads and sub zero temperatures in the North......but contractors take that excuse to extremes and use it to build endless seas of shoddily built subdivisions.
Charlotte is a great example of this.
And spending more money doesn't necessarily get you any better build quality because bigger Mc'Mansions are still built the same way as the smaller starter homes.
Quality construction is becoming a lost art.
I never thought about it that way. I’ve seen stuff all over the spectrum of quality here. I wonder coast-to-coast how common it is for builders to cheap out like that.
I’ve always been more focused on the “aesthetics” of a house. I like a certain look inside, and a certain curb appeal outside. I wouldn’t say that’s a reason to move or not move to a completely different region, but it does throw off a certain vibe in some places where residential architectures are regionally different.
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My parents have lived in a small mountain town in rural Western NC for about 20yr. They moved there for a slower pace lifestyle. Over the past 10yr, yankees have moved in droves. What was once a quaint mountain town with polite people now has rude drivers, rude customers in stores, and of course an increase in cost of living. Almost all of my parents' neighbors are northerners and they mock my parent's southern accent and say they don't pronounce things correctly.
If my parents wanted to deal with rude yankees, they would move to New York.
I get why yankees want to move south. The housing is cheaper, taxes are lower, and the weather is better. My parents say that anyone is welcome as long as they aren't rude and can fit in. But many yankees fail at this. Just yesterday I witnessed a guy with a thick northern accent telling the cashier "you need moah cashieahs heah". They just don't understand that in the south, we aren't blunt like that and say things like "wow, y'all are really busy and I'm sad to see you have to work by yourself".
So my question is when will yankees stop moving here? Once housing costs are the same as they are up north?
in 2019
30,000 people moved to NC from Florida
29,000 people moved to NC from Virginia
27,000 people moved to NC from SC.
NY was 4th with 23,000
Georgia was 19,000
* 52,000 from abroad, but those are soldiers or expats, because foreigners are counted differently.
i guess my argument is, what makes you assume it was Northerners
I never thought about it that way. I’ve seen stuff all over the spectrum of quality here. I wonder coast-to-coast how common it is for builders to cheap out like that.
I’ve always been more focused on the “aesthetics” of a house. I like a certain look inside, and a certain curb appeal outside. I wouldn’t say that’s a reason to move or not move to a completely different region, but it does throw off a certain vibe in some places where residential architectures are regionally different.
I worked in construction related industry when I lived in Charlotte, not to mention buying three homes in the time I was there.
So I got to view a lot of homes in various price rages and stages of construction.
Things I saw in 1200sqft starter homes that I also saw in 6000 sqft Mc'Mansions included things like:
Using nails where screws should be used.
Regular drywall where green board should be.
Untreated lumber scraps pieced together with butt joints and caulk used for exterior trim and door frames instead of solid treated lumber.
No insulation on exposed pipes
CHEAP Chinese cabinets.
Wall studs too far apart and 2X4s used as ceiling joists (usually covered with spray foam insulation to avoid being obvious)
Poorly hung doors and windows that wouldn't function properly when the weather changes.
Popcorn ceilings all over the place to hide the poor drywall skills.
......I could go on, but you get the idea.
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