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Old 12-18-2021, 07:33 AM
 
Location: Planet Telex
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“It used to be Israel had absolute power over Congress, and today I think it’s the exact opposite,” Trump said.
Why is this a bad thing? The only people who should have absolute power of Congress is Americans, not foreign governments.
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Old 12-18-2021, 07:38 AM
 
Location: Colorado
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I'll look forward to seeing the American Religious Right head over there the next time a shooting conflict occurs. Trump is the last person to be preaching to American Jews and he has pandered to the Christian Right for political reasons only, you can't say he is an example of what they think they represent..

But Trump aside the Israeli government is a secular body and not above reproach in their actions especially in the last decade. A person can dislike the government and still respect the countries right to exist, that's 2 different things.

Bingo. I'm sure there's a number of U.S. posters in this thread (on both sides of the aisle) that don't like certain actions the U.S. Government has taken over the years (again, on both sides of the aisle), but that doesn't mean they're anti-American. Just anti-certain-American-policies.
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Old 12-18-2021, 07:52 AM
 
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Any one from NYC Metro have told people on this board that Trump is just as he tells you.
He is a raciest and religious bigot. One who commits fraud, having lost many cases and having his Foundation shut down. Even now he has got the GOP paying his legal bills.
Perhaps but then all those wealthy New Yorkers, Celebs and Elites sure have a lot to answer for since they spent decades kissing Trump's ass, attending his parties and hanging out with him. i am also pretty amazed that a the entirety of the NYC Metro have met the man and have personal experience with him. Or are you just repeating Democratic/Liberal talking points?

Oh and FYI what is racist or bigoted about his statement? And for that matter is it incorrect? Every Evangelical I know has a almost fanatical view of Jews, and especially Israel, as the chosen people of God. Meanwhile as many have posted here American Jews have largely supported the Democratic Party which has a long history of supporting the enemies of Israel.
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Old 12-18-2021, 08:17 AM
 
Location: Austin
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What trump said is true. trump said, “I’ll tell you, the evangelical Christians love Israel more than the Jews in this country.”

......according to a new Pew Research Center survey. Roughly four-in-ten (42%) [Jews] say they think Trump is favoring the Israelis too much,....

By comparison, Christians in the United States are more likely to say Trump is striking the right balance between the Israelis and Palestinians (59%) than to say Trump favors the Israelis too much (26%). Among evangelical Protestants, 72% say they think Trump strikes the right balance between the Israelis and Palestinians, and just 15% say Trump favors the Israelis too much.


https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tan...tm_medium=copy
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Old 12-18-2021, 08:19 AM
 
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Default "Trump says evangelicals love Israel more than jews."

I read this as "Trump says that evangelicals love Israel more than they (evangelicals) love Jews."
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Old 12-18-2021, 08:29 AM
 
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Is there no end to the incredible ignorance and bigotry of this man? The fact that anybody supports him or politicians are afraid of him is simply astounding.

Here's a few excerpts for your reading enjoyment...

“It used to be Israel had absolute power over Congress, and today I think it’s the exact opposite,” he said.

He then suggested that American Jews used to have “a great love of Israel” and that this has “dissipated over the years.”

“I must be honest. It’s a very dangerous thing that’s happening,” Trump said. “People in this country that are Jewish no longer love Israel.” He went on: “I’ll tell you, the evangelical Christians love Israel more than the Jews in this country.”

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-ban...224031396.html
Wowz! You bombed on this post. So outta touch with reality. I’m betting you think Biden is doing a good job.
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Old 12-18-2021, 08:55 AM
 
Location: Oklahoma
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Trump is not wrong. You do know that Christianity is deeply tied to Israel and that heaven is actually a physical city which is New Jerusalem.

The article you posted goes on typical leftist lies and rants on Trump is a white supremesist and anti-semite but Trump has done alot for Israel that actually minted a Trump Cyrus coin in Israel. Trump is easily the most pro-Jew President in our history. I actually believe that the left are anti-semites and white supremesists.

I can also go through the rabbit hole of Biblical versus of Trump and Cyrus in Bible that mathematically tie out but dont think if you dont have faith, a basic understanding of theology it would be a fruitless venture.

I just know that the Huff post is garbage along with all these trash journalists who will have their encounter in hell.
A lot of Christians only support Israel because if Israel falls apart so does their eschatology. Others do so because of political alliances.

The Israelis themselves are mostly non religious. They have state sponsored abortion there. All kinds of things for an American evangelical not to like.
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Old 12-18-2021, 10:11 AM
 
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LOL @ the OP. He thought he stumbled on a piece (of Leftist propaganda) that was going make Trump look bad and instead it backfired.

It is well known that many American Jews would rather side with anti-Semites and anti-Israel like those Democrat U.S. Congresswomen Squad members Ilhan Omar and Rashida Tlaib.
Bwahahaha! I don't think you can say it backfired. Now we know the ratio of support this wannabe dictator still has among his base.

It's just amazing how this evil man can make statements that are SO racist or bigotted they would be career ending for anyone else, but his supporters are so desperate for a massiah they will flock to his side regardless of how vile and reprehensible his comments are.

And FYI - I was about 14 during the Six Day War. I was going to run away and join the Jewish Defense Forces! I had my bags packed and was going to take my new Winchester deer rifle. LOL But the war ended before I could sign up. How many of you had similar intent? And no, I'm not jewish.

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Wowz! You bombed on this post. So outta touch with reality. I’m betting you think Biden is doing a good job.
Confirming that Trump's evangelical base is still a danger to humanity. I am conflicted about the issues in Israel today, but I've been to the Sinai and Holy Land, so I may be more "in touch" than you think.

And yes, Biden is doing as well as can be expected under the circumstances. If the bigoted despot Trump still held office I shudder to think where America would be today. The man tried to overthrow democracy with illegal schenannigans, and his supporters agree with it, still.

The hate and divide between critical thinking and right wing extremisim seems insurmountable.

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Old 12-18-2021, 10:21 AM
 
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Trump shows again why he is a master manipulator. He makes wild accusations about the Jews and everyone forgets about his 1/6 insurrection (at least for a day). When comes to manipulation Don the con is the best!
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Old 12-18-2021, 11:35 AM
 
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I can't stand trump, but he's not wrong about this. It's super weird too, in that most evangelicals probably don't grasp the "people of color" issue.
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