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Old 12-28-2021, 11:25 AM
 
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That's a lie. No it did not. The Feds just made it up.
The feds? Now that’s a new one. Hahaha
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Old 12-28-2021, 11:27 AM
 
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Kwanzaa did not develop from anything. It did not come about organically. People literally sat down and concocted it and just declared that it was an African-American tradition.

What If I sat down and made up a Mexican holiday, would that make it real Mexican culture?
The Bible doesn’t tell Christians to celebrate Christmas. That was concocted too. What’s your point?
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Old 12-28-2021, 11:28 AM
 
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Oh look -- a thread full of conservatives complaining about how they don't acknowledge a black holiday.
It's not a black holiday though. It's really got nothing to do with black people.

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It's not a religious holiday. Black people never claimed it was a religious holiday. It's literally a celebration of black culture and history, and the 5-day celebration is meant to promote unity & peace.
Black people never claimed it and don't know anything about it. The media was telling people that it was our culture.

I was taught Kwanzaa by my white teachers in school in the 90s. No one in my family or community understood Kwanzaa. It has nothing to do with black culture and history.

If it was our culture, we would know about it.
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Old 12-28-2021, 11:29 AM
 
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The feds? Now that’s a new one. Hahaha
Yes the feds. Ron Karenga was an FBI informant.
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Old 12-28-2021, 11:29 AM
 
Location: Berwick, Penna.
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Huh??

Created in 1966 by Maulana Ron Karenga, a Black American scholar, and activist, Kwanzaa IS an African American and Pan-African holiday that celebrates history, values, family, community and culture.
Kwanzaa is a celebration to promote the Black culture heritage.

Kwanzaa is a time of communal self-affirmation that celebrates the Black heroes and heroines with food decoration, cultural objects, and the light of the kinara.


Maybe you should read this, because you seem to be clueless:
https://nmaahc.si.edu/kwanzaa
https://www.marca.com/en/lifestyle/u...8478b4612.html
That "scholar" served time in California for felony assault -- on a woman.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maulana_Karenga

And as to his "education", it was nothing more than the usual Leftist gobbledeygook.

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Old 12-28-2021, 11:30 AM
 
Location: Gaston, South Carolina
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Pretty simple. Celebrate what you want, don't celebrate what you don't want. Not sure how anyone thinks they have a right to dictate to anyone else what to celebrate.
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Old 12-28-2021, 11:30 AM
 
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It's not a black holiday though. It's really got nothing to do with black people.



Black people never claimed it and don't know anything about it. The media was telling people that it was our culture.

I was taught Kwanzaa by my white teachers in school in the 90s. No one in my family or community understood Kwanzaa. It has nothing to do with black culture and history.

If it was our culture, we would know about it.
There are celebrations going on across the country so there are some Black Americans who recognize the holiday…
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Old 12-28-2021, 11:30 AM
 
Location: Honolulu/DMV Area/NYC
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That "scholar" served time in California for felony assault -- on a woman.
That's a nice history lesson and I certainly don't have many positive things to say about the man; and, as a person with two PhDs and a current academic, yes he is a "scholar." But what does that have to do with anything?
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Old 12-28-2021, 11:31 AM
 
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Yes the feds. Ron Karenga was an FBI informant.
And what exactly does that have to do with Kwanzaa? Does your job inform everything else you do in life?
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Old 12-28-2021, 11:32 AM
 
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Are those requirements to make something a part of cultural traditions?

To your other point, no, that wouldn't make something part of Mexican culture if you had no buy in from people who actually comprise Mexican cultural groups, etc. But that's not the case with Kwanzaa. Now, if a group of Mexicans came together and created a new holiday that was observed by a sizable group of Mexicans, then, yes, I'd say that holiday was a part of Mexican cultural traditions, albeit a new cultural tradition.
Black people did not come together to make Kwanzaa. The Feds made it up and chose Karenga to be the front man. Powerful people who control the media gave it national attention and tried to make it real even though it was never anything that black people actually did.
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