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Old 01-13-2022, 03:19 PM
 
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Pedophiles the new oppressed group? Dems running out of groups oppressed by the evil conservatives?
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Old 01-13-2022, 04:04 PM
 
Location: New Orleans, La. USA
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Weak rebuttal. Normalizing pedophilia will definitely not reduce child sexual abuse. If you need an explanation why, than I can't help you. And we know why pedos rape children. Because they are sexually attracted to them. This stuff is as basic as it gets, and doesn't require scientists to explain why it happens.
I believe the link bellow is to the USA Today article that is the subject of this thread. Could you copy/paste a paragraph that "normalizes pedophilia", or tell me what part of the article "normalizes pedophilia", or explain how it "normalizes pedophilia"?

https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/...er/8768423002/


Or do you believe that the statement "DNA makes people pedophiles" is "normalizing pedophilia", and scientific studies that involve DNA and pedophilia are "normalizing pedophilia" ?
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Old 01-13-2022, 04:38 PM
 
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I'm not sure if you are aware of it but there is a growing movement among some liberals to make pedophilia more acceptable in mainstream society. I've seen some postings about this online and believe me it's pretty crazy. From what I've read they are comparing it to the fight for gay rights and their ultimate goal is to legalize this behavior.
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Old 01-13-2022, 04:52 PM
 
Location: South Bay Native
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I'm not sure if you are aware of it but there is a growing movement among some liberals to make pedophilia more acceptable in mainstream society. I've seen some postings about this online and believe me it's pretty crazy. From what I've read they are comparing it to the fight for gay rights and their ultimate goal is to legalize this behavior.
Care to cite even one source for this? Or is this just coming from the mind of The Philosopher?
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Old 01-13-2022, 05:07 PM
 
Location: Western North Carolina
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I have heard somewhere that people's acceptence of abuses put upon them - often stops when it is directed to the children. The children seem to be the last holy grail.

Let's hope that's correct.

I notice that about once a month or so now, some article comes out similar to this one, I believe just to "test the waters" and see if people are ready to accept the degeneracy of this filth yet.

So far, they have been completely shamed and shut down. As they well should be.
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Old 01-13-2022, 05:28 PM
 
Location: Toronto
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The USA Today article promotes that pedophilia is a natural and normal inclination, innate at birth.

That means there will be a push to normalize it. I mean, they can't help it, it's natural, we need to be understanding.

First, tolerate.
Second, celebrate.
Third, advocate.

Learn history.
You are pulling a bait-and-switch here and also straight-up lying about the contents of the article. The article is absolutely not, in any way, promoting pedophilia and if you seriously came away with that perception, your reading skills are poor or you are looking for something to be outraged about. I also don’t see how this article is evidence that “the left,” whoever the left is in your opinion, is normalizing pedophilia.

Your post is so ridiculously divorced from the contents of that article that I can’t possibly believe you are making your point in good faith. You seem to be looking for any way you can to demonize your political rivals, who you have clearly come to see as enemies of all that is good and decent. The hyperbole and misrepresentation in your post is insane. Your position that there is a leftist conspiracy to push and normalize pedophilia so it can be tolerated, celebrated, and advocated, as you put it, is also insane and completely lacking in evidence. It’s also disgusting and wrong. You are just making things up and this issue is too important to become yet another cudgel for people to demonize political opponents with.

Honestly, from reading your posts and those of many other members here, I don’t know if there is anything you don’t blame liberals and “the left” for. How nice it must be to have a single group of people on which to blame all the evils that occur in society. After all, if it’s them that are responsible for all that is wrong with America and Western Society, I guess that means you are one of the good guys. It also means your “team” are the good guys and the other team are maniacal villains to the point of caricature. Wow. That’s a new way of thinking that certainly has never led to mass murder and widespread persecution in the past and present.

Just to be extra clear, no one in the article says or suggests that pedophilia is “normal” in the way you are using the word just because some people are born with it. People are born with a lot of things that are not “normal,” including a whole slew of personality disorders, developmental disorders, mental health disorders, physical deformities and disabilities, and so on. From birth is not the same as “normal,” and no one is suggesting that it is. The article is not, in any way or at any time, normalizing the sexual abuse of children. In fact, there are quotes from the researchers who make that point quite forcefully so that people like you cannot go and say what you are saying. The researchers are clearly trying to better understand pedophilia so they can better deal with pedophiles so that they stop abusing children. Does someone studying an aspect of human behavior automatically mean they think it’s normal, natural, and acceptable? Obviously not. I’m not going to try and change your mind, but I hope thinking people who read this will realize how foolish your “hot take” on the USA Today article is.
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Old 01-13-2022, 05:37 PM
 
Location: NNJ
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Just like not all sociopaths and psychopaths kill or commit crimes not all pedophiles offend. There are help groups for pedophiles who have NOT and try to keep themselves from offending.

While this all creeps me out to no end and I find it disgusting, I also realize that unless a crime is committed there is nothing we can do. The best we can do is to give them the resources they need to get help and not offend. Ignoring that these people with this disorder exist just means more will eventually commit a crime and offend.... de-stigmatizing the disorder and give them a path to help is better than stigmatizing and letting them not seek help.

There have been previous threads on this including the group that helps them not offend; Virtuous Pedophiles.


As for NAMBLA, that group needs to disappear. Unlike Virtuous Pedophiles that know their attraction to children is morally wrong and seek to suppress/cope with those feelings/thoughts, NAMBLA seeks to abolish age of consent laws because they see nothing wrong with it their attraction.. even think it is their right. These two groups are dynamically opposite in their intent to deal with pedophilia.



The article is not in anyway promoting pedophilia..... that's being purposeful ignorant.

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Old 01-13-2022, 09:55 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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Having the sexual attraction to children isn’t a crime. But if they act upon their desires then it becomes a crime. Get psychiatric counseling for your urges before you act upon those urges. Once your u act upon those urges it’s too late.
Yes, but that also includes nude photos of children. The problem is not all nudity is sexual in nature. The issue is the interpretation of such. I mean how many people own naked baby pictures that show a bare-butt of their child (with or without a bearskin run)? Quite a few, that said, it is not sexual unless it is. Kind of like the "I know pornography, when I see it." What is pornography is up to the beholder. I'm sure there was a day when Betty Page (and I'm not talking her Playboy stuff) was porn. Now if you see Playboy, it looks tasteful compared to others.
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Old 01-14-2022, 01:30 AM
 
Location: Oregon
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destigmatization is the first step toward leniency.

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Old 01-14-2022, 05:11 AM
 
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Yes, but that also includes nude photos of children. The problem is not all nudity is sexual in nature. The issue is the interpretation of such. I mean how many people own naked baby pictures that show a bare-butt of their child (with or without a bearskin run)? Quite a few, that said, it is not sexual unless it is. Kind of like the "I know pornography, when I see it." What is pornography is up to the beholder. I'm sure there was a day when Betty Page (and I'm not talking her Playboy stuff) was porn. Now if you see Playboy, it looks tasteful compared to others.
This topic have been discussed before.

I do not agree with the Euros on many things, but one thing I do agree with the French is to ban child beauty pageants. The world pretty much agree to 18 as the 'adult' point. We have to as we cannot continue childhood forever. So 18 is as good as we can get. So if we can children from cigarette, alcohol, and other things, why not from beauty pageants?

And then there is this...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6aK...ldingandBeyond

...A fourteen yrs old girl in a 'fitness' contest.

It is true that pornography is difficult to define with accuracy and precision: "I know pornography, when I see it."

Do you really think the men in there were interested in her health?
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