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Old 01-30-2022, 07:08 PM
 
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well, I guess we found the hippy GenZ/late Boomer without a real marketable skill since 1982.
Ouch. I guess when you have nothing to contribute to a civil conversation you go straight to insults. Dismissed.
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Old 01-30-2022, 07:15 PM
 
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The hostility being directed towards me is really off the charts. I never suggested that we should force them to loan the money. You guys need to chill the ef out seriously Christ.

Last edited by AguaDulce; 01-30-2022 at 07:24 PM..
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Old 01-30-2022, 07:23 PM
 
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Assuming that they will lend the money as long as OTHER PEOPLE'S MONEY doesn't go away. OPM usually doesn't last.

Instead of college, money should be used for healthcare. College is a choice, health isn't

But, oh wait, Universal Healthcare failed miserably.

What's a country to do?
Are you talking about the affordable healthcare act?
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Old 01-30-2022, 07:26 PM
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Yet another solution looking for a problem.

Not everyone SHOULD be going to college and not every degree actually has value.

As, a taxpayer I am more than willing to pay for folks taking STEM classes. But that's it.



No value to the liberal arts classes. Those students can pay for their education.
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Old 01-30-2022, 07:31 PM
 
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As, a taxpayer I am more than willing to pay for folks taking STEM classes. But that's it.
No value to the liberal arts classes. Those students can pay for their education.
Unless you are on the list of 40 people who have between $30-$201 billion in assets (for this particular thought experiment) you would not even be approached.
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Old 01-30-2022, 07:32 PM
 
Location: Southeast US
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Ouch. I guess when you have nothing to contribute to a civil conversation you go straight to insults. Dismissed.
you did this, not me.
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Old 01-30-2022, 07:32 PM
 
Location: Prepperland
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Why make secondary education free, when for almost all subjects, secondary education is obsolete??

For centuries, universities were these places where the collected wisdom and knowledge of the ages was gathered. You needed to go to the university if you wanted to become an educated person. If you wanted to learn medicine, you needed to go to the only places where knowledge about that was available. The same was true of history, literature, philosophy, chemistry, biology, physics, mathematics, engineering, etc.

At present, every scrap of information you can find at a university can be found online. Now there may need to be some process of verifying that an individual has actually read and studied the material and that the source is valid, but what can I learn at a University that I can't learn at home on my computer? If it's not hands-on training, you can get all the same information without going to college.

The biggest thing still driving the demand for college degrees? The hiring boss thinks, "I had to get one of those damn things. It took me a lot of time, money, and effort. If I had to get a college degree, so should you!"
Actually, labor laws are the driving factor with respect to credentials.
Many state and federal laws control how employees are hired and paid.
In the past, employees who were hourly, and worked a lot of overtime, were promoted to salaried positions that had no overtime bonus. So that loophole was plugged by requiring a college degree for "salaried" positions.
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Old 01-30-2022, 07:36 PM
 
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you did this, not me.
Please clarify. What did I do to deserve such hostility?

This thread is different than most p&oc threads because I am not attacking people with whom I disagree.
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Old 01-30-2022, 07:40 PM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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Yet another solution looking for a problem.

Not everyone SHOULD be going to college and not every degree actually has value.
Thank you for saying what should be obvious, but what needs to be said anyway.
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Old 01-30-2022, 07:41 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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The hostility being directed towards me is really off the charts. I never suggested that we should force them to loan the money.
Sure. It just happens that forcing them is the only way your scheme would ever move forward. And if the people you were going to take it from, say they want no parts of your schemes, then forcing is what you'll be "reluctantly" have to do.
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You guys need to chill the ef out seriously Christ.
Sorry. We've seen what leftist extremists do. Consistently, time after time. You guys have used up all your rope. Time to find yourselves some brand-new suckers.
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