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People should have access to it. Not everyone should.
I have a college degree. Isn’t worth much to me and has never made me a penny.
I had a position open. I don’t really care about college degrees. One fella wanted more pay because he has degree. I said he might have one… I don’t need it.
A lot of college degrees aren’t worth anything. We like to point to stuff like philosophy and such but I laugh just as much if not more at business grads.
These days there’s a lot of money in trades and other jobs that don’t require degrees. People just have to… we’ll… work.
My gf has a masters. Prolly a year from doctorate. Decade of experience.
I’ve paid kids in their early twenties the same thing she’s making to swing hammers.
I've been in the job market three times in the last 6 years. Most jobs that pay well and provide benefits require a college degree. Since so much of the application process is done electronically these days, your resume will go straight into the trash before anyone even looks at it. There is not even a chance in hell of a face-to-face unless you pass the first hurdle.
How many do you employ, and what is your benefits package like?
while you are using your search engine look up the amount of money Harvard has. perhaps we should “borrow” money from them or maybe they can offer free tuition to disadvantaged people. dont worry, that will never happen and no one will suggest it.
If everyone has a college degree, they'll become worthless. It's kind of like a high school diploma. Very few jobs only require a high school diploma anymore, since they practically hand them out nowadays.
I've been in the job market three times in the last 6 years. Most jobs that pay well and provide benefits require a college degree. Since so much of the application process is done electronically these days, your resume will go straight into the trash before anyone even looks at it. There is no face-to-face unless you have passed the first hurdle.
How many do you employ, and what is your benefits package like?
That’s the problem with robo resume readers. Invest a little time in optimizing your resume for certain keywords. I don’t agree with the practice and understand it skips a lot of people that would otherwise get looked at.
We also have inflation of degrees. I’ve seen plenty of jobs that “require” degrees… but don’t need degrees. Another societal issue that I don’t agree with.
Most learning for a job is on the job, not in school.
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If everyone has a college degree, they'll become worthless. It's kind of like a high school diploma. Very few jobs only require a high school diploma anymore, since they practically hand them out nowadays.
Totally. And look at the scandals where private schools pop up and load homeless people up with student loans for classes.
Even the local state university a few years back started talking about how it should transition to a job training school to attach more butts to seats.
You’re still forgetting that wealth isn’t in cash.
True, but the cash is not necessarily needed. It's the assets and investments that are needed. The working capital. Right? The tuition is to be paid (in this thought experiment) with earnings on investments.
True, but the cash is not necessarily needed. It's the assets and investments that are needed. The working capital. Right? The tuition is to be paid (in this thought experiment) with earnings on investments.
A lot of these investments of these billionaires are stocks in their businesses.
These companies these days largely don’t really give off dividends. It’s stock appreciation.
There’s no earnings from these investments without selling the owners stocks, which you will not do.
Lufthansa has confirmed that it flew 18,000 empty flights since the pandemic just to keep its take-off and landing rights at airports.
And once again the I-didn't-think-this-through vapid dreamers completely ignore that that plane that flew empty from A to B, had to pick up passengers at B and fly them to C, and then others to the next destination at D etc. They blithely imply that the airline simply should have cancelled or diverted the flight to B... and then congratulate themselves on coming up with such a simple "solution".
God save us from the wishful thinkers who dream they can solve all our problems for us from the comfort of their armchairs. And then go around making simple, empty statements trying to get enough votes from other who also didn't think it through, to put their idle dreams into effect via force of government. They are the ones who will be complaining next year that those money-grabbing airlines never keep their schedules.
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Hear me out, I’m just a socialist with a spreadsheet and a search engine.
You have just succinctly summarized why normal people should NOT hear out your ill-constructed dreams and idle thoughts, but should dismiss you with the contempt they deserve.
The equivalent of two years post high school education cost should be essentially as free as k-12. I don't think that necessarily applies to room and board. Community colleges and trade schools should be free. Some are now.
Nothing is free. Apparently some of y'all weren't paying attention during economic class.
The equivalent of two years post high school education cost should be essentially as free as k-12. I don't think that necessarily applies to room and board. Community colleges and trade schools should be free. Some are now.
Agreed...the "promise" programs are growing in many states below also where you can transfer into a more affordable public state college if you maintain good grades in community college... https://www.freecollegenow.org/promise_programs
The thought experiment as stated in the OP is only addressing the needs of those who want a post-secondary education without having to take out a loan. Your realtor example is not relevant to the discussion.
Education should NEVER be free. Period. End of Story.
Make something free and it becomes worthless.
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And then go around making simple, empty statements trying to get enough votes from other who also didn't think it through, to put their idle dreams into effect via force of government. They are the ones who will be complaining next year that those money-grabbing airlines never keep their schedules.
