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Yes, gay relationships have been around forever. But until recently, gays were persecuted for it, beaten, killed and forced to "stay in the closet". And of course they only recently won the right to enjoy the same benefits of marriage that heterosexuals do. Republicans like Rick Scott would like to turn back the clock.
But the US is founded on separation of Church and State. Disapproval of gays these days is limited to one segment of one religion, so why should our laws be written to satisfy a few religious bigots?
Yes, gay relationships have been around forever. But until recently, gays were persecuted for it, beaten, killed and forced to "stay in the closet". And of course they only recently won the right to enjoy the same benefits of marriage that heterosexuals do. Republicans like Rick Scott would like to turn back the clock.
But the US is founded on separation of Church and State. Disapproval of gays these days is limited to one segment of one religion, so why should our laws be written to satisfy a few religious bigots?
The same for banning abortion at the national level. But I seldom if ever hear Republicans in Congress bring up the importance getting that done even when they dominated Congress.
There is no reason Republicans will suggest a "FIX" when they can just campaign on it and get Millions in contributions for doing it.
Republicans know keeping the Abortion argument around ensures the church doors and collection plates are also open and ready to be raided by their campaigns. It also ensures Evangelicals stay engaged in politics as much of politics runs counter-intuitive to religious teachings.
So, if a child is born to a single mother, she won't be able to get food for the child?
But if the child has two parents living in the home, and they fall on hard times, there will be food and other support available?
We don't know what #9 means. Your guess is as good as mine. I do know, there is a fervor broiling below the surface to outlaw gay marriage. And that's what that looks like to me.
stop being obtuse. thats just silly. just keep beliving the nonsense coming from the prog left.
Sometimes babies are born of indeterminate gender. That's where that term "indeterminate gender" comes from.
Surely, in your life experience, you've noticed male/female attributes are variable. There are women who, through no attempt on their own, look like men. And men who are undeniably effeminate. Gender isn't perfectly black and white.
Additionally, the movement is going away from men participating as women in sports. That will sort itself out shortly. No further need on that, virtually everyone is in agreement that's not fair to women and steps will be taken to ensure men don't continue to sign up to compete in the women's category.
This piece he wrote is about enforcing his ideas. How do you enforce a preference for a nuclear family, is what I'm asking. That's what he's advocating. Enforcing his personal belief system on the rest of us.
So. What would enforcement of #8 look like?
Indeterminate sex. Infants have no gender identity and therefore cannot be determined by appearance. Sex is genetically determined, while gender is a social construct.
While I believe that people should be allowed to identify how they wish, the undeniable fact is that men don't have periods, give birth, or breastfeed whether or not they identify as a woman. We should not pretend they can.
What about changing all laws and official government text to remove "gendered language" to remove all instances of 'she' or 'him' and replace them with 'birthing person', 'they' etc... What about granting legal damages for emotional harm due to employers not using "Zhe" or "Zho" pronouns under existing sex discrimation laws (meant to be male/female)? What about having to grant access to female jails for males claiming to be trans females so they can rape other prisoners?
Because all those things are happening without the legal government recognition of 2 distinct sexes and genders
I covered all of that when I said: "You do you, leave everyone else the hell alone".
This is your fundamental misunderstanding of Western Democracy. It is in fact base on Jude-Christian values and this does not mean it is a religious system, it means the core principles are based on judeo-Chrisitan values. Notions like "it is better to let the crime of a guilty person go unpunished than to condemn the innocent" are firmly based in that tradition.
What we have been seeing is foundational judeo-christian values being slowly eroded and replaced with "values" from the woke religion, which is absolutely a religion and one based in Marxism which is a proven catastrophe
Please do not be fooled by flowery language. Those same Judeo-Christian values are what led to persecution throughout Europe. This Judeo-Christian values had Sunday laws in place here and have led to religious discrimination against Sabbath-keepers, including those who are Christian. These Republicans push their version of religion on others. Live your religion. Let us practice ours.
The entire document is filled with contradictions. I found this amusing:
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Our children are being
poisoned by a false political
agenda in their school
when his entire "rescue plan" is based on a false political agenda. He's equating jingoism with patriotism, when jingoism is nothing of the sort.
And then there's this:
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We will eliminate all federal programs that
can be done locallys
Who does he think is implementing many federal programs? That's right: private, local nonprofit groups. Nonprofits operate Head Start, AmeriCorps/VISTA/SeniorCorps, USDA nutrition programs, federally funded family planning, adult education, homelessness prevention programs, etc. etc. etc. etc. The federal government provides only partial funding for many of these; it's up to the states and the nonprofits to find the money for the rest.
So much idiocy. If he's looking for swing votes, he's not going to find them with this.
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Originally Posted by ClaraC
No. Just no. We won't go backwards.
That's exactly where the hard right wants to go - back to what they see as a "better" time, when women and minorities were not heard, when women stayed with abusive spouses because they had nowhere else to go, when gays were afraid to be themselves in public.
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Originally Posted by BlakeJones
#8 is a general positive view of the nuclear family, which is needed
But not all families are nuclear. What then? Don't all families matter?
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Originally Posted by BlakeJones
it's the Identity Marxists that have almost complete control of the Academy.
Mmmmkay ...
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Originally Posted by tipsyguam
We absolutely need America to go back to being more Christian, put God back in school
God has no official place in the public schools. Not all students believe in God. Not all students are Christian.
No one is asking kids to leave their belief in God at the threshold or throw away their WWJD bracelets before they enter the school. But there must be no school-sanctioned religious student groups, no mandatory school prayer, no paintings of Jesus in the classroom, no curriculum focusing on or promoting only one religion.
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Originally Posted by Myghost
If a parent wants to send their kid to a private school, they can. I just don't want my tax dollars going to vouchers.
Exactly.
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It's a very divisive document, even refers to "the radical left". That is not bringing anyone together. How about he acknowledges mulitiple points of view, and provides some leadership on how to incorporate diverse ideas. NOPE!!!!!
I noticed that as well. This is the absolutism a lot of conservatives are complaining about, but they just can't see it wearing those GOP blinders.
Yeah, no hatred or dismissal for people who identify or think differently.
I wonder how young conservative Republicans feel on the gender issue who think they were born the wrong sex and want to change identity to the opposite sex and want society to recognize it. Or do they simply resign themselves to living out their biological sex the best they can for society, especially for their fellow Republicans?
I wonder how young conservative Republicans feel on the gender issue who think they were born the wrong sex and want to change identity to the opposite sex and want society to recognize it. Or do they simply resign themselves to living out their biological sex the best they can for society, especially for their fellow Republicans?
No one is stopping anyone from living the way they want to live.
If a man wants to wear a dress and be called Sheena. Go for it.
A family friend's male neighbor used to mow the lawn in a dress. Nobody gave a chit.
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