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Old 02-26-2022, 05:45 PM
 
Location: Retired in VT; previously MD & NJ
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Are you seriously comparing 'leaving your bike outside and it getting stolen' to a murderous invasion of a sovereign state!!
No. He is giving you an analogy. If you do something careless/stupid, there will be obvious consequences.

 
Old 02-26-2022, 10:45 PM
 
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Are you seriously comparing 'leaving your bike outside and it getting stolen' to a murderous invasion of a sovereign state!!
Putin apologists do that.
 
Old 02-26-2022, 10:48 PM
 
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Get lost. There are no excuses for Russia and this atrocity they have created.

You mean the atrocity that US-led NATO started and Russia is about to finish.
 
Old 02-26-2022, 10:53 PM
 
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My understanding is that a treaty was signed between the old USSR regime and the countries that wanted to become independent. But in order to become independent, those countries had to pay mother Russia off. Much like how Haiti had to pay off France for their independence. And Ukraine had till 2018 (about 25 years) to pay off 250 billion to be independent, and they failed to pay not even one cent, so Putin considers the treaty void and he has a right to bring Ukraine back under Russia's control. Might be also why the US and EU are reluctant to roll in and help defend Ukraine. NATO and the UN also seem to be looking the other way. China and India are also not helping. They don't much care for those who fail to honor their end of the deal. In fact, China deals like this all the time. Promises a poor country to help uplift their economies by fronting the costs of building infrastructure to bring in high end retail like banks and hotels, but in turn those countries have 25 years to pay off the debt, and if they fail to, then China will own either a major road in their biggest city or just own the city outright.

Don't talk about things you are wholly unfamiliar with.
 
Old 02-26-2022, 10:55 PM
 
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I wish that is what Ukraine really wants.

In reality, a slight majority in Western Ukraine wants to suck EU dick for money, while Eastern and Southern Ukraine wants nothing to do with the EU, or wants to join Russia. After the 2014 coup, the western majority that seized power in the capital has used the Ukrainian Army to try to put down the secession/rebellion in the East and South through force.

The Western coup was supported by America and the EU, who gave money to literal Ukrainian Nazis, who brought down the democratically-elected government, but who were then stabbed in the back after they were successful, and now these Ukrainian Nazis are fighting for a literal Jewish government, which seems hell-bent on getting every Ukrainian killed because they are getting paid off by the United States and the EU to make Russia pay as high a price as possible as part of a larger geopolitical game.

Supported? I would go as far as to say orchestrated.
It's just yet another example of the US overthrowing democratically elected leaders and replacing them with puppets.
 
Old 02-26-2022, 11:01 PM
 
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Now you sound like a woke leftist

His list is entirely accurate, and it's not even close to being a comprehensive. One could write a textbook on all of US atrocities even though the country's existence is barely 2 centuries old.
 
Old 02-27-2022, 04:15 AM
 
Location: Las Vegas & San Diego
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No you don't. Last I checked, Russia has ICBMs. Wake us up when they get rid of them.

Some of you folks really skipped history class, the part where Russia is the #2 most powerful military in the world. Which means they have a lot in their arsenal they haven't used yet.
History is not what is at play. You seem to be a Russian apologist or sympathizer with not much real knowledge. Nukes are a different level than conventional weapons - ANY use of nukes will ensure that Russia will no longer be a country. Just having Nukes does not make a country powerful because while you can destroy using Nukes, you can't occupy land or control a population with them. Basically Russia would destroy what it wants to control - at that point they will have lost any goal they had.
 
Old 02-27-2022, 04:21 AM
 
Location: SE UK
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No. He is giving you an analogy. If you do something careless/stupid, there will be obvious consequences.
So he IS trying to compare leaving a bike outside to a murderous invasion of a sovereign state? Hardly comparable don't you think!?
 
Old 03-01-2022, 03:47 AM
 
Location: Kocaeli, Turkey
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So he IS trying to compare leaving a bike outside to a murderous invasion of a sovereign state? Hardly comparable don't you think!?
Russia didn't want Nato near its land, Ukraine's president was so insistent in joining Nato.
 
Old 03-01-2022, 03:55 AM
 
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Russia is not close to the second most powerful country of the world. Probably not top five.

Ukraine did not create the confrontation.
Well, thank you for posting a sensible comment.
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