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Old 02-26-2022, 09:30 AM
 
Location: Rural Wisconsin
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Yes.
Witness the time lapse of a 1000 years of European borders:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjWVFZ5e_vo
GREAT find!! Thanks for posting!
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Old 02-26-2022, 06:07 PM
 
Location: Toronto
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A nuclear strike on the largest city in Europe, where 99% of the death toll will be innocent civilians is not very smart. It’s a great way to make enemies of the majority of Russian people, who support the Ukraine and hate Putin. It should NOT ever be considered a good strategic move.

NATO needs to put pressure on Putin and his ability to keep his inner circle happy while also arming and training more Ukrainian soldiers at the same time. We can all donate to many funds that are being used to buy as many heavy weapons as possible, like Javelins, MANPADS for soldiers and civilians. It’s kind of like World Vision, but instead of sponsoring a poor child, you are sponsoring the ability of soldiers and civilians to have the capacity to blow up every tank, attack chopper, and fighter jet that Russia sends into Ukrainian territory. .

Help them make it so painful for Russia to continue that they end the invasion and leave Ukraine like they did in Afghanistan. Even donating $10 will help destroy a Russian tank.
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Old 02-26-2022, 06:11 PM
 
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We’re on tippy toes with this creep.
He’s got nukes. He needs an 80’s movie treatment.
Send in Norris, Stallone, Schwarzenegger and Vandamme to take him out, and all his lead cronies.
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Old 02-26-2022, 06:19 PM
 
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Ukraine is non-NATO, it’s none of our business.
Kuwait was non-Nato yet we pushed Saddam back to Iraq. That being said I don't want our troops sent. But nuking Moscow should be on the table with every other possible response that does not involve sending US troops.
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Old 02-26-2022, 06:24 PM
 
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Ok, the best thing is to not overreact.

Borders have changed-hands ever since the concept came about.
But Europe stopped that very bad habit, because it tended to cost the lives of a generation of young men every 20 years or so. Until a certain KGB colonel got way more power than he could handle and got dreamy-eyed about former greatness.
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Old 02-26-2022, 07:00 PM
 
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We didn't launch nuclear missiles when the Chinese had driven UN and American forces back to the 37th parallel in South Korea despite MacArthur's request for their usage against China. Why would such an attack be allowed now when the USA isn't even directly engaged with the enemy in question?
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Old 02-26-2022, 08:38 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma
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That would precipitate a world wide nuclear war.

There are different ways of dealing with this.

1. Continue sending armaments into western Ukraine. Javelins and UK anti-tank missiles are wreaking havoc on Russian armor.
2. Hire mercenaries to go into Ukraine- they are not actually NATO troops, but could function as such without precipitating a war with Russia
3. Stir up anti-war riots in Moscow
4. Close the Bosporous Strait
5. Provide western satellite and intel to Ukraine
6. If Ukraine falls, fund partisans which will make occupation impossible
7. Urge the Pope to recognize an ethnic "Holy War", now that Chechens are being sent. Make it a war of religious ideology.
8. Offer each Russian soldier who surrenders $20,000- use the power of western economies to defeat Putin
9. Provide Ukraine with short range non nuclear tactical missiles that can be directed toward Moscow. Missiles falling on Moscow would be a huge blow to Putin that would raise Russian sentiment against him.
10. Blow up dams on the Don and Dneiper to make the land impassable for further Russian ground troops
11. Blow up Chernobyl, making the northern approaches into Ukraine from Belarus impossible. The prevailing winds blow east and north.
Maybe we should send in that 305th Military Intelligence Battalion (Kraken) now that they are done finding all those servers in Frankfurt?
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Old 02-26-2022, 08:43 PM
 
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I don't know about the rest of you, but I think it's time to roll out the "Enola Gay" once again, with one unannounced stop over Moscow.
Let's get this done once and for all.
Russia would be in no condition to retaliate.
Unfortunately Putin is in a bunker in the Urals.
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Old 02-26-2022, 08:48 PM
 
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Originally Posted by hawkeye2009 View Post
That would precipitate a world wide nuclear war.

There are different ways of dealing with this.

1. Continue sending armaments into western Ukraine. Javelins and UK anti-tank missiles are wreaking havoc on Russian armor.
2. Hire mercenaries to go into Ukraine- they are not actually NATO troops, but could function as such without precipitating a war with Russia
3. Stir up anti-war riots in Moscow
4. Close the Bosporous Strait
5. Provide western satellite and intel to Ukraine
6. If Ukraine falls, fund partisans which will make occupation impossible
7. Urge the Pope to recognize an ethnic "Holy War", now that Chechens are being sent. Make it a war of religious ideology.
8. Offer each Russian soldier who surrenders $20,000- use the power of western economies to defeat Putin
9. Provide Ukraine with short range non nuclear tactical missiles that can be directed toward Moscow. Missiles falling on Moscow would be a huge blow to Putin that would raise Russian sentiment against him.
10. Blow up dams on the Don and Dneiper to make the land impassable for further Russian ground troops
11. Blow up Chernobyl, making the northern approaches into Ukraine from Belarus impossible. The prevailing winds blow east and north.
We’re already doing #1 and 5. Turkey is already doing #4. Russia captured Chernobyl, so #11 is out. #7 is kinda dumb. The rest, OK.
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Old 02-26-2022, 08:48 PM
 
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I don't know about the rest of you, but I think it's time to roll out the "Enola Gay" once again, with one unannounced stop over Moscow.
Let's get this done once and for all.
Russia would be in no condition to retaliate.
Are you enlisting killer? and flying the plane yourself? You won't even make it 1 minute in Russia airspace. People watch a lot of movies.
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