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Old 02-27-2022, 09:28 PM
 
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Bingo!

There is a great old movie from 1959 called "On the Beach" that might give you an idea of what it will be like if the nukes start flying.

https://www.google.com/search?gs_ssp...obile&ie=UTF-8

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0053137/
Neville Shute is the author of the novel that the movie is based on - the book has the same title. I read it a couple of years ago.

Australia is the last continent to still have people alive as the radiation clouds from multiple nuclear bombs slowly spread and decimate life on earth.

It is moving and it is terrifying.
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Old 02-27-2022, 09:29 PM
 
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One weapon would likely be a modern version many times more powerful than those used in Japan.
My info. says it would virtually destroy Cal,. and the residual effects would take a bit longer but annihilate living things. The grateful dead would be there till they decomposed.
That's moronic. Big bombs out and we know plenty about Russian weapons.

No matter what, if they attacked us, our nuclear triad (that Trump has never heard of) would respond.

The center of that triad is our Ohio class subs. Each of those 14 SLBM subs has 24 Trident II missiles that then each have on average 4 independently targetable warheads with on average a half megaton bomb each. Each bomb is more than 30 times more powerful than the bomb dropped on Japan. These subs are not findable and can sit on the floor of the ocean off the Russian coast and deliver warhead in minutes of launch. More than 1,300 warheads.

It is the American trump card. We can destroy half the world in minutes and no one could do anything about it.
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Old 02-27-2022, 09:32 PM
 
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That's moronic. Big bombs out and we know plenty about Russian weapons.

No matter what, if they attacked us, our nuclear triad (that Trump has never heard of) would respond.

The center of that triad is our Ohio class subs. Each of those 14 SLBM subs has 24 Trident II missiles that then each have on average 4 independently targetable warheads with on average a half megaton bomb each of which is more than 30 times more powerful than the bomb dropped on Japan. These subs are not findable and can sit on the floor of the ocean off the Russian coast and deliver warhead in minutes of launch. More than 1,300 warheads.

It is the American trump card. We can destroy half the world in minutes and no one could do anything about it.
Russia can barely find our Carriers let alone our subs...they simply don't have the air assets or navy...their navy is basically littoral and their air force has the same limitation...they have no force projection much beyond land.
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Old 02-27-2022, 09:42 PM
 
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The biggest problem we have right now is our inept, outclassed leadership...they are more concerned about pronouns, the environment and ice cream than freedom or security.
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Old 02-27-2022, 09:45 PM
 
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That's moronic. Big bombs out and we know plenty about Russian weapons.

No matter what, if they attacked us, our nuclear triad (that Trump has never heard of) would respond.

The center of that triad is our Ohio class subs. Each of those 14 SLBM subs has 24 Trident II missiles that then each have on average 4 independently targetable warheads with on average a half megaton bomb each. Each bomb is more than 30 times more powerful than the bomb dropped on Japan. These subs are not findable and can sit on the floor of the ocean off the Russian coast and deliver warhead in minutes of launch. More than 1,300 warheads.

It is the American trump card. We can destroy half the world in minutes and no one could do anything about it.
Lol, if you think that a nuclear war is winnable, you are delusional.
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Old 02-27-2022, 09:49 PM
 
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Lol, if you think that a nuclear war is winnable, you are delusional.
I think you have misconceptions as to what would actually play out...how nukes actually work and what is "winnable".


Most of the warheads are in kiloton and a few in megaton...the Tzar Bombas (50/100megaton) were novelty and not anywhere near practical for tactical purposes...
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Old 02-27-2022, 09:50 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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If I remember correctly I read that the Satan 2 missile could carry nukes that are 400x more powerful than those dropped on Japan.
Most nukes deployed by most nations today are 400x more powerful than those dropped on Japan in WWII.

The Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombs were pretty dinky as modern nukes go. They were measured in the 15-25 kiloton range. Modern nukes are in the megaton range.

Still, there's no such thing as a "weak" nuclear bomb, including the 1945 ones. Even those "comparatively small" ones wiped out half a city each, and killed hundreds of thousands. Modern ones can take out an entire LARGE city plus a lot of the area surrounding it. And many nations have missiles that can carry many nukes at a time and drop them on multiple targets.
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Old 02-27-2022, 09:51 PM
 
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I think you have misconceptions as to what would actually play out...how nukes actually work and what is "winnable".
Nah, I really don't.
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Old 02-27-2022, 09:51 PM
 
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Some people seem to be forgetting MAD (Mutually Assured Destruction). Russia's nuclear arsenals might not be as advanced as the USA, but they can still destroy us because we can not destroy all their nukes in a first strike. And our missile defense system can only intercept a small percentage of incoming missiles.
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Old 02-27-2022, 10:08 PM
 
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Russia can barely find our Carriers let alone our subs...they simply don't have the air assets or navy...their navy is basically littoral and their air force has the same limitation...they have no force projection much beyond land.
Russian submarines use a new tactic.
They leave a container with a nuclear torpedo somewhere on a sea floor. It can stay there for years. If a signal to cancel the mission doesn't come, it swims slowly to a programmed location near the enemy's shore and detonates a nuclear bomb creating a 0.5-mile-high tsunami.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Status...purpose_System
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