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Old 03-03-2022, 07:24 AM
 
Location: Cleveland
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Originally Posted by YourWakeUpCall View Post
Calling someone condescending is an insult.
I said you were condescending to me, which is exactly what saying "let me help" and proceeding to explain base rate fallacy to a math major is. I could have insulted you but I merely described exactly what you were doing in that moment.

Take the loss.

 
Old 03-03-2022, 07:24 AM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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Originally Posted by tribecavsbrowns View Post
Perhaps. But people create the conditions for threads like these when they say things like "90% of people dying are unvaccinated, and that's true everywhere" (I've actually heard that one!).

So of course, when there's a piece of evidence that falsifies that, it will be pointed out.
Your momma never taught you that two wrongs don't make a right?
 
Old 03-03-2022, 07:24 AM
 
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My my my.

78% of the UK population received at least 1 shot, and 89% of COVID deaths for that time frame were for those who were fully vaccinated.

We'd need to do some more adjustments here to get a better estimate into vaccine efficacy, with a bare minimum adjustment for age, but highly effective these vaccines aren't.
78% of those 50 and older are fully vaxxed with 3 doses.
 
Old 03-03-2022, 07:27 AM
 
Location: Cleveland
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Your momma never taught you that two wrongs don't make a right?
It's not wrong!

It's a fact. About 9 out of every 10 Covid deaths presently in the UK are vaccinated.

If that fact is inconvenient for certain narratives or people, then the problem lies with those narratives or people.
 
Old 03-03-2022, 07:28 AM
 
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Originally Posted by tribecavsbrowns View Post
It's not wrong!

It's a fact. About 9 out of every 10 Covid deaths presently in the UK are vaccinated.

If that fact is inconvenient for certain narratives or people, then the problem lies with those narratives or people.
Please post a link or information about your assertion. I've not read that.
 
Old 03-03-2022, 07:36 AM
 
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Please post a link or information about your assertion. I've not read that.
Check the first page for links.

It's the title and topic of this entire thread.
 
Old 03-03-2022, 07:40 AM
 
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Originally Posted by newtovenice View Post
Check the first page for links.

It's the title and topic of this entire thread.
What page is it on about 89% of people dying from Covid being vaccinated? I really would like to see it. Not reading through 58 pages. Someone on this thread must have read it since they posted about it.
 
Old 03-03-2022, 07:45 AM
 
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Originally Posted by James Bond 007 View Post
And you didn't even read the footnote below your own table:

As has been pointed out many times here, if 100% of the population is vaccinated, then 100% of cases and deaths will be of vaccinated people. That does not mean the vaccines don't work, it just means the vaccines aren't 100% effective. But as the passage I posted below demonstrated, the vaccines greatly reduce your chance of dying from Covid.

Wouldn't we expect the overall number of cases/deaths to be lower in a 100% vaccinated population vs a 0% vaccinated population though? That part always gets left out of that common argument. The numbers aren't all that different between pre and post vaccination timelines. If anything, there are more now then before the vaccine became available.
 
Old 03-03-2022, 07:47 AM
 
Location: Cleveland
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What page is it on about 89% of people dying from Covid being vaccinated? I really would like to see it. Not reading through 58 pages. Someone on this thread must have read it since they posted about it.
If you can read, you can figure it out. Again, refer to the original post.
 
Old 03-03-2022, 07:53 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Lillie767 View Post
Nope. You are wrong. You really should leave this to the grownups.


You never took a statistics course did you? No actuarial training have you? Reading comprehension level?

Does this debate tactic work in your normal everyday life?
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