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I say it would give you a ratio, and you answer, no, it would give you a ratio. What gives?
I'll say it again, you could calculate percentages from the data I posted if you cared to. Period.
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Originally Posted by tribecavsbrowns
Anyway, that ratio has nothing at all to do with the simple question I asked, which is:
If you don't believe that about 89% of Covid deaths happening currently in the UK are among vaccinated people, then what do you believe the actual percentage is?
You know, you can always just agree that it's about 89%, instead of me asking half a dozen times and you not answering. That's an option too.
I'll say this again, too. I answered your question. Whether you like the answer or not is irrelevant.
I explained why they’re garbage. They’re overestimating the # of vaccinated. Large denominator. They do this by simply computing the number from # of vaccines given making no adjustment for people who don’t live there. And in the U.K. and the rest of Europe anyone could get the vaccine, even a tourist.
Take Gibraltar, for a while it was reported 100+% of the population was vaccinated when in reality around 80% are. They were vaccinating Spanish workers, who don’t live in Gibraltar, but since they were vaccinated in Gibraltar it’s used to “estimate” Gibraltar’s vaccination rate.
So a fair number is they’re over estimating by 20%. But if they over estimate the vaccinated, what about the unvaccinated?
The unvaccinated estimate is tied to their estimate of the vaccinated. If they overestimate the vaccinated, they will always underestimate the unvaccinated! So smaller denominator !
This one error has propagated through both rates . It’s obvious mathematical chicanery they would expose immediately by including error bars!!!! But they don’t so table 13 is worthless.
Yep. Why anyone thinks they have a better method to answer the question "how many people dying now are vaccinated?" than to, you know, count how many deaths are in vaccinated people in a recent period and divide it by total number of deaths in said period is beyond me.
The other MAJOR problem with Table 13 (I covered this earlier) is that it only counts boosted people as vaccinated.
So again, you share a simply and transparently calculated percentage, and people fight you tooth and nail about it, because it could be seen as bad for the vaccines. But the same people will take something that includes actual chicanery -- in this case, literally counting vaccinated people as unvaccinated -- and copy and paste it practically at random, like clip art on a 1998 birthday invitation, just because it could be seen as good for the vaccines.
This is the obvious and inherent problem with small samples, yep. Glad we're finally on the same page.
Great! So now I've changed my over/under on the next 10 Covid deaths in the UK being vaccinated from 8.5 all the way down to 5.5. Still even money. You're betting under then, right? You're expecting about three of those 10 to be vaccinated, so I'm basically handing you money with those odds, right? So, it's a deal?
I was shocked that KS was actually doing something right for a change, and I have spent enough time here to be surprised! They pulled TV ads that said the vaccine was effective and safe, since most already know! We have this Democratic governor who got 1/3 of her campaign funding from outside of the state (think special interest groups), and she has went crazy thinking she was a one woman government. She has state workers, many of them, still on vacation (now for 2 years) rather than working. We vote her out in Nov 2022! She rules over KDHE, so when she says "jump", they say "how high". Most of them are not in their offices, so COVID has been good to them.
"Sen. Mark Steffen, R-Hutchinson, again raised the issue Wednesday. “When it comes to the COVID shot … we talked about the problem that KDHE was basically saying ‘safe and effective, safe and effective, safe and effective’ when we have a CDC VAERS reporting system that ties 20,000-plus deaths, and more complications, to these shots than all the other vaccines combined,” he said."
Hopefully, this will help others step up and stop the lies! That proverbial "cat is out of the bag"!
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