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For me personally, the important part to decipher is: does vaccination increase risk of hospitalization and severe covid symptoms, or does it decrease risk, or does it make no difference. There are so many factors it becomes really challenging to properly analyze!
For example the vaccinated group is more likely to include the high risk people (those who are older or have comorbidities were more motivated to get vaccinated) while the unvaccinated group will tend to be younger and healthier (did not feel they needed vaccine due to their youth and good health.) That's a pretty important difference in the cohorts and obviously has to be taken into account when interpreting the data.
For me personally, the important part to decipher is: does vaccination increase risk of hospitalization and severe covid symptoms, or does it decrease risk, or does it make no difference. There are so many factors it becomes really challenging to properly analyze!
For example the vaccinated group is more likely to include the high risk people (those who are older or have commodities were more motivated to get vaccinated) while the unvaccinated group will tend to be younger and healthier (did not feel they needed vaccine due to their youth and good health.) That's a pretty important difference in the cohorts and obviously has to be taken into account when interpreting the data.
It's actually the opposite now. The most severely sick people, cannot get vaccinated. Think people in a hospice etc.
People of normal health to having a few issues are all getting vaccinated either because they're afraid of COVID, want to travel the world, or their university is telling them to do it.
89% of people dying from COVID are vaccinated per UK data.
Oh no, that can't be. You see, a vaccine prompts the immune system to manufacture antibodies, which fight against the disease in question. That is what all vaccines have done since the beginning of vaccines. Which means it is almost a surefire thing that such a vaccinated individual will not contract the said disease.
So if 89% of the people dying from covid are "vaccinated" against covid, that would mean the covid "vaccine" can't be defined as a vaccine. And we know that can't be because our betters have told us that it definitely is a vaccine and it definitely prevents covid and that everyone, down to the last newborn in the incubator, must be vaccinated or they are gong to spontaneously combust and go to hell right after they infect everyone around them. Our betters would NEVER lie to us would they???
I love this thread. Actual statistics vs. studies vs. interpretation. The vaccines are not what they are purported to be and the statistics are highly manipulated to promote effectiveness when the real world facts state different. The cheerleaders continue to cheer because they must.
It would be nice just to have the numbers, wouldn't it.
X number of people died from COVID
X number of them were unvaccinated
X number of them we vaccinated
Weird that *somehow* we can never find those basic, 2nd grade math analysis numbers.
That is not known, because there is no incentive to report or investigate if reported. MDs are discouraged from saying the vaccines can be dangerous. The CDC can ignore and dismiss any VAERS reports and call them coincidences.
For me personally, the important part to decipher is: does vaccination increase risk of hospitalization and severe covid symptoms, or does it decrease risk, or does it make no difference. There are so many factors it becomes really challenging to properly analyze!
For example the vaccinated group is more likely to include the high risk people (those who are older or have comorbidities were more motivated to get vaccinated) while the unvaccinated group will tend to be younger and healthier (did not feel they needed vaccine due to their youth and good health.) That's a pretty important difference in the cohorts and obviously has to be taken into account when interpreting the data.
Yes, the numbers are not easy to interpret. And it's very easy to use the numbers to mislead.
We have to consider what the medical authorities want us to believe, and also consider that they feel lying is perfectly justifiable.
I love this thread. Actual statistics vs. studies vs. interpretation. The vaccines are not what they are purported to be and the statistics are highly manipulated to promote effectiveness when the real world facts state different. The cheerleaders continue to cheer because they must.
And from Dicipher:
The only thing you needed to say was on a percentage basis, the amount of people that died of the virus is statistically insignificant, whether they had a vaccine or not. The vast majority recovered without having to go to a hospital.
This is indisputable and has been from the start of the this nonsense.
I agree with you both. For two years it's been amazing watching how the numbers have been manipulated and propagandized.
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