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People who had three vaccine doses had lower risk of death involving COVID-19:
Six-month age-standardised mortality rates per 100,000, by age group and vaccination status, England, Jul-Dec
All Age Groups Combined:
Unvaccinated: 356.5
21 days or more after second dose: 67.2
21 days or more after third dose or booster: 23.6
Those look like good numbers to me.
But the OP will continue to insist these numbers are irrelevant. To that I say:
In the table (12a) that you noted in the OP, it shows that the vast majority of deaths were people over 80 and almost all of the deaths were people over 70. That age group has an extremely high rate of vaccination. That age group is also of course much more likely to die period.
Table 13 in the link shows that in every age cohort there was a much higher rate of death for the unvaccinated group.
It shows:
- If you were over 80 you were 2.3x more likely to die if unvaccinated.
- Age 70 to 79 you were 4x more likely to die if unvaccinated
- Age 60 to 69 you were 3.4x more likely to die if unvaccinated
- Age 50 to 59 you were 4.4x more likely to die if unvaccinated
- Age 40 to 49 you were 3.2x more likely to die if unvaccinated
- Age 30 to 39 you were 7x more likely to die if unvaccinated
Yup, table 13 has the actual rates.
Columns 5 and 6 have the death rates.
Death rates per 100K:
Age________Vaccinated_____Unvaccinated
Under 18______0.0_____________0.0
18 to 29 ______0.1 _____________0.1
30 to 39 ______0.1 _____________0.7
40 to 49 ______0.5 ____________1.6
50 to 59 ______1.3 ____________5.8
60 to 69 ______4.5 ____________15.7
70 to 79 ______13.4 ___________54.1
80 or over ____85.6 ___________197.3
You can see the dichotomy really starts to become apparent in people 50 and older.
People who had three vaccine doses had lower risk of death involving COVID-19:
Six-month age-standardised mortality rates per 100,000, by age group and vaccination status, England, Jul-Dec
All Age Groups Combined:
Unvaccinated: 356.5
21 days or more after second dose: 67.2
21 days or more after third dose or booster: 23.6
Those look like good numbers to me.
But the OP will continue to insist these numbers are irrelevant. To that I say:
And the OP should take this advice:
Yup, they recommend the booster. That's because after 25+ weeks after being "fully vaccinated*," vaccine efficacy goes negative vs Omicron, per Figure 1. Then, 15 weeks later after that you can look forward to ~ 30% VE.
But the OP will continue to insist these numbers are irrelevant. To that I say:
Actually most people using basic math would say those numbers are irrelevant. Over a period of about 2 1/2 years....
Roughly 6 million deaths worldwide out of a population of 8.9 billion .
Roughly 1 million deaths in the U.S. out of 330 million
And the same arguments persist.
Responses coming in 5, 4, 3, 2, 1....
But what if it was your (mother, father, spouse, son, daughter, friend, pastor, friend of a friend, anonymous stranger on the internet, 3rd cousin you never met on your father's side of the family, etc., etc.).
Add another handful of whataboutisms and there you have the last 2+ years of bickering.
People who had three vaccine doses had lower risk of death involving COVID-19:
Six-month age-standardised mortality rates per 100,000, by age group and vaccination status, England, Jul-Dec
All Age Groups Combined:
Unvaccinated: 356.5
21 days or more after second dose: 67.2
21 days or more after third dose or booster: 23.6
Those look like good numbers to me.
But the OP will continue to insist these numbers are irrelevant. To that I say:
And the OP should take this advice:
Funny how they come up with these rates, but when you use the actual endpoint of death, 9/10 are jabbed.
It's 89 percent, as you said. Lillie767 is obfuscating.
No, actually you're accusing the UK Health Security Agency of obfuscating.
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