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Old 03-05-2022, 08:58 PM
 
Location: Was Midvalley Oregon; Now Eastside Seattle area
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wonders to be seen:
$100,000 household income families (1->n people) are living pay-check to pay-check.
Any sympathy from families earning less than this amount?
Ymmv
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Old 03-05-2022, 09:01 PM
 
Location: So Cal
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I think I would argue that if you can rack up 10 months of savings, you’re not exactly living paycheck to paycheck. Don’t get me wrong, I don’t think you’re rich at all, but in my mind, paycheck to paycheck means I have no savings, so even a small setback, like needing new brakes on my car, is going to set me back.

And kudos to you for being able to save 10 months of expenses! We should all do that, if possible.
Yes, it's why I questioned the paycheck to paycheck thing. I live that way, but have a carve out for savings.
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Old 03-05-2022, 09:05 PM
 
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We have 2 daughters (4 & 1). Our childcare bill was $2k/month in dec. Got notice it was going up to $2.5k in Jan and then just told again it’s going up to $2.75k per month in April . Inflation is killing our budget.
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Old 03-05-2022, 11:35 PM
 
Location: Rural Wisconsin
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We have 2 daughters (4 & 1). Our childcare bill was $2k/month in dec. Got notice it was going up to $2.5k in Jan and then just told again it’s going up to $2.75k per month in April . Inflation is killing our budget.
So it seems to me that a parent would have to make at least $50k just to come out even, if one adds the work-related expenses (extra gas to and from work, possibly a more costly clothes budget depending on the job, etc.).

I wonder if we will be seeing a return to situations in where one parent works and one parent stays home when they have at least one child under the age of six.

Is it really any wonder that middle-income people are having fewer children these days?
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Old 03-05-2022, 11:37 PM
 
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I didn't read every page, but they spend more money. Eating out especially has increased in price.

If inflation is really the cause, imagine what it does to everyone else making well below $100K!
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Old 03-06-2022, 05:50 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Off the top pay cash for your car. If that means you can only buy an old car. Well that tells you, you are doing a bad job saving up money.

Take away the car and that is still pretty much impossible. $400 per week is $1600 per month. I don't know anyone that can live on that in today's environment.
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Old 03-06-2022, 06:14 AM
 
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We have 2 daughters (4 & 1). Our childcare bill was $2k/month in dec. Got notice it was going up to $2.5k in Jan and then just told again it’s going up to $2.75k per month in April . Inflation is killing our budget.
If the government starts subsidizing childcare more, it will go up again.
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Old 03-06-2022, 06:54 AM
 
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These threads can get so ridiculous. First off, it was pointed out to the OP that this situation has existed for years (even though he tries to vehemently deny it)

And then we get 100 pages of whataboutisms. If someone is living paycheck -to-paycheck, the first place to look is in the mirror. I can pretty much assure you life wasn't fine and dandy for these people over the last few years either. This doesn't just magically happen with some inflation. In all likelihood, that person/family has struggled all along and it could be for a variety of reasons (and in some cases...dare I say it....bad decisions).....

Poor job skills so income is limited

Poor family planning

The inability to budget and prioritize (living beyond means) and excessive debt (caused by poor financial planning)

Lack of ability to be self sufficient (i.e. fixing and maintaining things)

These are just a few reasons (I'm sure others can list many more).

Ultimately it's a puzzle that is up to the individual to solve. Dealing with these ridiculous whataboutisms is an exercise in futility. It's unlikely anyone on an internet forum is going to be able to fix anything for those complaining (and certainly spending time ranting solves nothing).

Life is hard. I guess you'll need to figure it out.
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Old 03-06-2022, 07:17 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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These threads can get so ridiculous. First off, it was pointed out to the OP that this situation has existed for years (even though he tries to vehemently deny it)

And then we get 100 pages of whataboutisms. If someone is living paycheck -to-paycheck, the first place to look is in the mirror. I can pretty much assure you life wasn't fine and dandy for these people over the last few years either. This doesn't just magically happen with some inflation. In all likelihood, that person/family has struggled all along and it could be for a variety of reasons (and in some cases...dare I say it....bad decisions).....

Poor job skills so income is limited

Poor family planning

The inability to budget and prioritize (living beyond means) and excessive debt (caused by poor financial planning)

Lack of ability to be self sufficient (i.e. fixing and maintaining things)

These are just a few reasons (I'm sure others can list many more).

Ultimately it's a puzzle that is up to the individual to solve. Dealing with these ridiculous whataboutisms is an exercise in futility. It's unlikely anyone on an internet forum is going to be able to fix anything for those complaining (and certainly spending time ranting solves nothing).

Life is hard. I guess you'll need to figure it out.
The percentage of those earning more than $100,000/year living paycheck to paycheck went up from 10% in 2017 to 48% in January 2022. That's a lot more people needing to learn to figure it out.
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Old 03-06-2022, 07:29 AM
 
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The percentage of those earning more than $100,000/year living paycheck to paycheck went up from 10% in 2017 to 48% in January 2022. That's a lot more people needing to learn to figure it out.
No it did not and it was already pointed out to you in post #160 as much as you'd like to ignore it. And people with savings are not exactly living paycheck-to-paycheck. But do continue to try to make your sensationalistic claims based on your propaganda from "The Hill".
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