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Old 05-07-2022, 08:57 AM
 
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I find it extremely ironic that the left - which for years, starting with Donald Trump announcing his candidacy for the presidency back in 2015 - has been screaming that the right poses dangers to democracy.

From The Washington Post, that propagandist rag which put up the phrase "Democracy Dies In Darkness" during the Trump administration, to miscreant youths marching after the 2020 election burning, shouting, screaming, and destroying while chanting "not my president!" with the most shrill voices, to those who demanded the abolition of the Electoral College to those who wanted SCOTUS packed....

... they now demand that Roe v. Wade not be overturned.

These people have said not a single word about how unethical, dangerous, illegal, and criminal it was for the leak to happen, yet out of their numbers appear calls to demonstrate at the homes of the six conservative Justices (3 in MD and 3 in VA) while the addresses were posted online.

But an overturning as per Justice Alito's draft would simply send the issue back to the state level, where it was until 1973 and where it must be as per the Constitution.

And yet conservatives, Republicans, etc are the real threat to democracy?

And yet the senile one says MAGA is dangerous?

Leftist posters on C-D, if you're one of these, please think before calling us conservatives enemies of democracy.

 
Old 05-07-2022, 08:57 AM
 
Location: Retired in VT; previously MD & NJ
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It's going in the same direction as the widely varying state laws regulating 2nd Amendment Rights, so what's the problem?
Because owning a gun, or having to register it or not is not the same as being forced to give birth against one's will. That is a poor analogy.
 
Old 05-07-2022, 08:58 AM
 
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You keep saying that, but you're wrong.

The state laws banning abortion haven't been allowed to take effect yet because Roe V Wade hasn't been officially repealed.

You're splitting hairs, and using wordplay to get around the truth that States do actually have laws banning abortion that will be enforceable immediately when Roe V Wade is repealed.

They're state laws, already on the books.
That day can't come soon enough!
 
Old 05-07-2022, 08:58 AM
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Which state law bans abortion?
I'm not doing your leg work for you. There are 13 states with trigger laws.

Look up this information for yourself, and report back.

I've posted the link already in this thread, but it would be easier for you to start fresh with google.

Never mind - here's the link, for the sake of the board and the conversation. Scroll down to the end. 23 states have enacted and passed laws that would ban abortion if Roe V Wade is repealed:

https://www.today.com/news/news/13-s...rned-rcna27268
 
Old 05-07-2022, 08:59 AM
 
Location: Retired in VT; previously MD & NJ
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Which state law bans abortion?
Texas already bans abortion for the woman whose cycles are irregular to the point she doesn't know she is pregnant until after 6 weeks.
 
Old 05-07-2022, 09:00 AM
 
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Incorrect. They are biological relatives.
Biological relatives do not have a say in a womans medical decisions unless they are legal next of kin and the woman is incapacitated. Biological relatives do not get to force their will on others just because they are related.
 
Old 05-07-2022, 09:00 AM
 
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The point that he may have wanted the baby sailed right over your head, didn't it?
It's not his body that has to carry a parasite, which a fetus medically and scientifically is.
 
Old 05-07-2022, 09:01 AM
 
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Wouldn't that be a given when neither he nor she used birth control? The predictable outcome of that is pregnancy.
No.
 
Old 05-07-2022, 09:02 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Because owning a gun, or having to register it or not is not the same as being forced to give birth against one's will. That is a poor analogy.
Owning a gun is a Constitutional Right. Having an abortion is not. Since states can vary in how they regulate 2nd Amendment Rights, they can most certainly vary in how they regulate abortion.

The truth hurts... If you all didn't want abortion to be regulated by states as they see fit, you never should have stood by and let states vary in how they regulate an actual Constitutional Right.

The precedent has been LONG established that states can regulate any real or perceived right as they see fit.
 
Old 05-07-2022, 09:03 AM
 
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It's not his body that has to carry a parasite, which a fetus medically and scientifically is.
Lies.
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