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Old 05-05-2022, 09:03 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Originally Posted by UNC4Me View Post
The more educated one is, the more likely to be Pro-Choice. The higher ones income, the more likely to be Pro-Choice. It’s a statement of fact. Your response however lands squarely in the LOL category.

My comment on this was in response to a poster who suggested anyone Pro-Choice should be shipped out of Texas. I just wondered based on the FACTS who was going then pony up to support those forced birth babies. I guess they’ll just go hunger. I mean who cares about born babies. Certainly not Texas.
Yeah, cuz only smart, highly educated women think a 10 or 12 week old fetus is just a lifeless clump of cells.

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Old 05-05-2022, 09:11 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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The rage generated by the pending overturn of Roe, by SCOTUS, is not faux. It is authentic. Genuine, legitimate and natural outrage. Why every American is not enraged, fearful or deeply concerned about the autocratic implications of Justice Alito's arguments in this leaked document, and the potential disastrous effect on every one of us, is the mystery to me.
We see women screaming and pulling their hair out in California and New York, two states where we know damn well they will allow abortion on demand for 30-36 weeks. So yeah, their outrage is faux. The states on the east and west coasts will have very liberal abortion laws, just as they do now. Nothing will change. In fact, those states will probably expand abortions.
 
Old 05-05-2022, 09:14 PM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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Originally Posted by Wapasha View Post
Well, if you are going to be so irresponsible, that you have lots of unprotected sex, it's your responsibility to test your self every couple weeks for possible pregnancy. Regardless of whether or not your state has strict abortion laws.
No pregnancy test will tell you you are pregnant until at earliest 3 weeks gestation, and that is a blood test from a doctor. Minimum 4+ weeks for an OTC test. At 4 weeks pregnant that allows for 2 weeks to find a doctor, get an appointment, save funds, and get the prescription. Anyone who has tried to get a doctors appointment knows that there is generally a wait to get in.

Even if you test daily you aren't going to know any sooner than 4 weeks with an OTC test.
 
Old 05-05-2022, 09:14 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Originally Posted by WRM20 View Post
Texas. I expect that abortions to save the mother's life will be banned, with the argument that it's "God's will". Current Texas law does not include exceptions for rape or incest, because our Lt. Governor thinks the life of the unborn child is more important than forcing a woman to relive her rape for 9 months. He could not care less about women. I get the impression that he thinks the Taliban has the right idea in keeping women uneducated and subject to the whims of their husband or father.
Hopefully the people of TX push back and make their laws less strict. "God's will"??? Really???
 
Old 05-05-2022, 09:16 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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No pregnancy test will tell you you are pregnant until at earliest 3 weeks gestation, and that is a blood test from a doctor. Minimum 4+ weeks for an OTC test. At 4 weeks pregnant that allows for 2 weeks to find a doctor, get an appointment, save funds, and get the prescription. Anyone who has tried to get a doctors appointment knows that there is generally a wait to get in.

Even if you test daily you aren't going to know any sooner than 4 weeks with an OTC test.
Well, that's where these laws trying to ban abortion after the sixth week are nuts. How are most women supposed to know their condition in six weeks?
 
Old 05-05-2022, 09:22 PM
 
Location: Retired in VT; previously MD & NJ
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Well, that's where these laws trying to ban abortion after the sixth week are nuts. How are most women supposed to know their condition in six weeks?
That is the point some of us have been trying to get across. Six weeks is near impossible. Throw in the fact that many women have irregular or long cycles, waiting for a missed period to do the test can put one over the 6 week limit.
 
Old 05-05-2022, 09:41 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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Todays Leftists cannot and will not acknowledge Roe is/was a bad law. RBG as a rational Liberal was more than willing to admit the obvious (although she was pro-abortion).

The libs have given away to the irrational progressives in the Democratic Party.
But like it or having Roe vs Wade overturned without a doubt only makes things all out worse and crazier. As a result, states can ban all abortion and send violators to long prison sentences, while other states can legalize abortion at any stage of the pregnancy up to the 9th month, even making partial birth abortion legal. Conservatives, who are smart, know that the only way to fix it is by passing a federal statute that bans nearly all abortions or pass and ratify a Right to Life constitutional amendment.
 
Old 05-05-2022, 10:03 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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So why doesn't every abortion clinic have an in-house abortion alternative counselor in them? How about a policy where every person who is exploring an abortion, is referred for counseling on other options?

Let's never, ever forget where abortion "rights" started. They started with Margaret Sanger, an avowed eugenicist. She wasn't supporting "choice" she was pushing abortion on poor people, especially Blacks, "for their own good".

There is no real interest in woman's health, it really is about control.
You're so wrong. Margaret Sanger promoted birth control because she abhorred abortion. She felt sterilizing inferior people of whatever color was the proper thing to do, not abort their offspring.
 
Old 05-05-2022, 10:04 PM
 
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Senate's job is to give advice and consent or someone they approve.

That's what they did.

What's the problem?
 
Old 05-05-2022, 10:06 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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The Supreme Court is not trying to ban or reduce abortions. They are trying to move such decision making, from a Supreme Court who decided the issue with no authority to do so and no hope for people to campaign or vote on it, back to the democratic process. A democratic process of the American people freely debating and then voting for their own legislators to enact their ideas in their own areas, according to their own opinions and desires.

Only the people who do not trust this democratic process to provide a result that's good for the nation, are the ones.....
....are the ones that keep trying to pretend the Supremes are doing something wrong or illegal.
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But like it or having Roe vs Wade overturned without a doubt only makes things all out worse and crazier.
Yup, like that.

Nobody ever said that democracy was neat and clean. Only that it is the best way to represent the will of the people. That's what the Supremes are trying to get to, by overturning the earlier Roe decision which took this choice away from the people.
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