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Old 05-05-2022, 06:34 PM
 
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You are the main cheerleader here. And women DO have a choice. Abortion is not outlawed across all 50 states. If you don’t like Texas, move to a liberal state.
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Bingo.

 
Old 05-05-2022, 06:37 PM
 
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If you really cared about women’s health, you wouldn’t be encouraging abortions.
^^^I say B.S. to this post and opinion which is a slur!

People who identify as pro-reproductive rights believe everyone has the basic human right to personally decide when and whether to have children. Pro-reproductive means a belief that women should have the ability to choose their own medical care and it means supporting access to birth control, sex education and other forms of sexual and reproductive health care. When people say they are pro-choice/pro reproductive healthcare they are saying they believe it’s OK for women to have the ability to choose abortion as an option for an unplanned pregnancy — even if they wouldn’t choose abortion for themselves. This IS the definition of caring about others and their health.

Supporting reproductive rights means supporting laws that allow people to access the full range of reproductive health care — including safe, legal abortion. Pro reproductive rights means respecting the real-life decisions women and their families face every day.
Decisions about whether to choose adoption, end a pregnancy, or continue a pregnancy should be made by a pregnant person with the counsel of their family, their faith, and their health care provider. Politicians, religious movements and government should not be involved in anyone’s personal medical decisions about their reproductive health or pregnancy.

This is what it means to care about women's health. Full Stop!

Last edited by corpgypsy; 05-05-2022 at 06:47 PM.. Reason: punctuation correction
 
Old 05-05-2022, 06:42 PM
 
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Originally Posted by bus man View Post
Not surprising. It's a big state, after all. But I'm willing to bet that along the Texas Triangle, where more than 70 percent of the state's residents live, you don't have to travel anywhere near that far to find an abortion clinic.
So the other 30%, or upwards of 9 million people, call it 3 million women of childbearing age, just have to suffer.
 
Old 05-05-2022, 06:47 PM
 
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Originally Posted by InformedConsent View Post
RBG knew it would. She commented on its poor Constitutional standing.
Todays Leftists cannot and will not acknowledge Roe is/was a bad law. RBG as a rational Liberal was more than willing to admit the obvious (although she was pro-abortion).

The libs have given away to the irrational progressives in the Democratic Party.
 
Old 05-05-2022, 06:52 PM
 
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Todays Leftists cannot and will not acknowledge Roe is/was a bad law. RBG as a rational Liberal was more than willing to admit the obvious (although she was pro-abortion).

The libs have given away to the irrational progressives in the Democratic Party.
Liberals spend too much time emoting and too little thinking.

From 2010 on, the transformation of state/local legislative seats to conservatives was breath-taking, which reshaped the lower courts in that direction. Then libs stupidly (from their desired result pov) took the bait, stupidly applauding challenges to the Texas plus Mississippi abortion laws, which set up the result leaked this week.

In short, if liberals were playing tennis this way, they would lose a match with 100% unforced errors.

Conservatives, in the meantime, played a long chess game understanding the importance of appointing lower court judges. Understanding the importance of winning the majority of inner USA legislatures a large percentage of the time. They were patient, rational, and it culminated in this weeks leaked result.
 
Old 05-05-2022, 07:10 PM
 
Location: In a George Strait Song
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Originally Posted by corpgypsy View Post
^^^I say B.S. to this post and opinion which is a slur!

People who identify as pro-reproductive rights believe everyone has the basic human right to personally decide when and whether to have children. Pro-reproductive means a belief that women should have the ability to choose their own medical care and it means supporting access to birth control, sex education and other forms of sexual and reproductive health care. When people say they are pro-choice/pro reproductive healthcare they are saying they believe it’s OK for women to have the ability to choose abortion as an option for an unplanned pregnancy — even if they wouldn’t choose abortion for themselves. This IS the definition of caring about others and their health.

Supporting reproductive rights means supporting laws that allow people to access the full range of reproductive health care — including safe, legal abortion. Pro reproductive rights means respecting the real-life decisions women and their families face every day.
Decisions about whether to choose adoption, end a pregnancy, or continue a pregnancy should be made by a pregnant person with the counsel of their family, their faith, and their health care provider. Politicians, religious movements and government should not be involved in anyone’s personal medical decisions about their reproductive health or pregnancy.

This is what it means to care about women's health. Full Stop!
Your rant aside, please tell me in which state abortion is illegal.

I am extremely pro birth-control and pro sex education, which if you read my posts unemotionally, you would realize. If we had more focus on accessible birth control and factual sex ed, maybe we wouldn’t have to kill thousands of the unborn every year.

Why don’t you worry about the 20 countries where abortion is completely forbidden? They are mostly poor countries, BTW, like the DR, Haiti, Honduras, and Nicaragua.
 
Old 05-05-2022, 07:19 PM
 
Location: Corona del Mar, CA - Coronado, CA
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The purpose of the Constitution....
Do you know anything at all about Constitutional Law? Where did you get your law degree? I'd demand a refund.

Nothing you said is accurate and quoting Wikipedia as a reputable source is just sad.
 
Old 05-05-2022, 07:32 PM
 
Location: Howard County, Maryland
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Originally Posted by WRM20 View Post
So the other 30%, or upwards of 9 million people, call it 3 million women of childbearing age, just have to suffer.
Or, they could just avoid the suffering by not getting an abortion.
 
Old 05-05-2022, 07:34 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Originally Posted by Quick Commenter View Post
Todays Leftists cannot and will not acknowledge Roe is/was a bad law. RBG as a rational Liberal was more than willing to admit the obvious (although she was pro-abortion).

The libs have given away to the irrational progressives in the Democratic Party.
From the leaked "Draft Opinion" by Supreme Court Justice Sam Alito:
Abortion present a profound moral issue on which Americans hold sharply conflicting views.
For the first 185 years after the adoption of the Constitution, each State was permitted to address this issue in accordance with the views of its citizens. Then in 1973, this Court decided Roe v. Wade, 410 U.S. 113.

The Constitution makes no reference to abortion, and no such right is implicitly protected by any constitutional provision, including the one on which the defenders of Roe and Casey now chiefly rely – the Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment.

Stare decisis, the doctrine on which Casey’s controlling opinion was based, does not compel unending adherence to Roe’s abuse of judicial authority. Roe was egregiously wrong from the start. Its reasoning was exceptionally weak, and the decision has had damaging consequences.

The Constitution does not prohibit the citizens of each State from regulating or prohibiting abortion. Roe and Casey abrogated that authority. We now overrule those two decisions and return that authority to the people and their elected representatives.


https://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000...c-c74f98520000

The Supreme Court is not trying to ban or reduce abortions. They are trying to move such decision making, from a Supreme Court who decided the issue with no authority to do so and no hope for people to campaign or vote on it, back to the democratic process. A democratic process of the American people freely debating and then voting for their own legislators to enact their ideas in their own areas, according to their own opinions and desires.

Only the people who do not trust this democratic process to provide a result that's good for the nation, are the ones screeching, rioting, and threatening court Justices and lawmakers now.
 
Old 05-05-2022, 07:37 PM
 
Location: Mid-Atlantic
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Are you sure about that? Most people on your side overwhelmingly claim that women can't tell whether there's a chance they might be pregnant or not. That doesn't happen unless a woman is stupid or irresponsible.
I'm neither stupid nor irresponsible. Decades ago, I was quite surprised to find that the small, ugly mass that I passed was an embryo. I had no idea that I had been pregnant. I successfully avoided that for years.
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