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I don't know who they talked to, because the ones I have seen interviewed and in a meeting held in Uvalde were very upset. The video was set to be released a few days from when it was, and they were supposed to see it first, with counselors available. None of them said anything about the paper running it by them first.
Yes, I saw the same thing on the newscast. All that were interviewed for that report expressed outrage and disappointment that they were not given the opportunity to view the video before releasing it to the media, as they had been promised.
Good points. The problem is 100% bad training. First body armor can easily be defeated. Cops all wear body armor, but once in a while one of them gets shot and killed. Not often, but once in a while.
Body armor doesn't generally protect the head, arms or legs. But if you watch police training they receive zero training in how to shoot those parts of the body. It's always shoot for the torso because that's the biggest part of the body. Translation: we are not good enough shots to hit a small target, so we have to shoot for the largest possible target. It's just bad training.
A common question I hear law enforcement asked is why they can't shoot a person with a knife in the legs instead of killing them. The response always goes something like, leg shots don't stop a suspect. Which is complete BS. The King Soopers shooter that you mentioned was taken out with leg shots. He survived getting shot in the legs, but it stopped his rampage. Blowing somebody's legs out from under them is a highly effective way of stopping them. Sure if a shooter gets shot in the legs he could theoretically continue shooting, but he would have to do it while laying on the ground in extreme pain. The suspects threat level would be greatly reduced at that point, if not completely eliminated.
But again cops are not trained for that. So when they see an active shooter with body armor, they don't know what to do, so they just run away. Because they don't have any training to deal with that situation.
I'm guessing you know nothing about fire arms or you watch too many movies. Any that has taken a fire arms training is taught to aim for center mass. I bet you believe cops can shoot a knife out of a suspects hand also.
This is why cops don't shoot legs. This guy was shot multiple times at close range. He fell down, rolled over, and then got back up to continue advancing toward cop with his knife. They shot him even more times but he just ate those bullets up like they were nothing. You should really watch the video.
Parent who rescued her own kids, and one entire classroom of kids says the Uvalde police have been harassing her for running into the school and rescuing kids while they stood around did nothing. She says a police car has been parking in front of her home flashing it's lights and they keep threating her with arrest for interfering during the shooting after the fact. Where is the Governor, and DPS they should be putting a stop to this. Not sure what happened to the other thread couldn't find it.
There is a press conference going on right now (6:11 pm EST Sunday) by the Texas House committee about Uvalde. Seems random to hold it on a late Sunday afternoon. All I have heard so far is "multiple systematic failures."
That too. I believe cops are trained in leg shots in almost every country outside of the US. In the US the metallity is just kill, kill, kill. Which should not be the goal of law enforcement. Their goal should be to solve crimes and bring suspects to justice. It's kind of hard to do either one, if the suspect is dead.
let's see some source for your claim
It's already hard as it is to shooting the largest part of a human body (the torso)
Shooting the low extremity of the human body (the legs) and smaller targets while it's on the move? Good luck
I'm not a lawyer, but I already smells legal lawsuit with this here in the United States.
Firearm is a lethal tool.
Taser, OC, beanbag guns are less-than lethal tool.
You don’t use a lethal tool for a situation that does not warrant lethal tool. For example, if you shoot someone in the leg with a firearm, then that means you believe the situation does not warrant lethal force, therefore, a firearm is not the correct tool.
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I saw a seemingly credible source say the federal agents who busted into the class room and took down the shooter had no idea any injured / dead children were inside, communication among all the officers on site was that bad.
Good points. The problem is 100% bad training. First body armor can easily be defeated. Cops all wear body armor, but once in a while one of them gets shot and killed. Not often, but once in a while.
Body armor doesn't generally protect the head, arms or legs. But if you watch police training they receive zero training in how to shoot those parts of the body. It's always shoot for the torso because that's the biggest part of the body. Translation: we are not good enough shots to hit a small target, so we have to shoot for the largest possible target. It's just bad training.
A common question I hear law enforcement asked is why they can't shoot a person with a knife in the legs instead of killing them. The response always goes something like, leg shots don't stop a suspect. Which is complete BS. The King Soopers shooter that you mentioned was taken out with leg shots. He survived getting shot in the legs, but it stopped his rampage. Blowing somebody's legs out from under them is a highly effective way of stopping them. Sure if a shooter gets shot in the legs he could theoretically continue shooting, but he would have to do it while laying on the ground in extreme pain. The suspects threat level would be greatly reduced at that point, if not completely eliminated.
But again cops are not trained for that. So when they see an active shooter with body armor, they don't know what to do, so they just run away. Because they don't have any training to deal with that situation.
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I agree with that. I read before that Israeli cops shoot people in the legs vs killing them, who they suspect to be terrorists, so that they can question them and get information out of them.
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That too. I believe cops are trained in leg shots in almost every country outside of the US. In the US the metallity is just kill, kill, kill. Which should not be the goal of law enforcement. Their goal should be to solve crimes and bring suspects to justice. It's kind of hard to do either one, if the suspect is dead.
Dumbest conversation ever. You do not point a firearm at anything you don’t want to destroy. Save the heroic bs for the movies. If you’re pointing firearm at someone it better be because you intend to kill them or at least have the intention to kill them if they do something aggressive. There is no other reason to pull it.
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I saw a seemingly credible source say the federal agents who busted into the class room and took down the shooter had no idea any injured / dead children were inside, communication among all the officers on site was that bad.
Unless they’re hearing impaired or had arrived on scene within minutes of the breach and were completely out of the loop, there’s no way they didn’t know people were dead in the classroom.
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