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Old 06-18-2022, 08:41 AM
 
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I don’t know about that. Compared to Trump there is really no bigger grifter on the planet, I think. But keep worrying about 3 presidents ago, if it makes you feel better.
So, this thread is about Obama. Not sure how you missed that. Why are you bringing up Trump?
Fun fact: Projection, a debate tactic long embraced by liberals and other low-information folks, is transparent and doesn't make those who employ said technique appear to be terribly intelligent.
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Old 06-18-2022, 09:22 AM
 
Location: USA
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This hypocrites' third term is an unmitigated disaster.
In other breaking news, Joe just fell off his bike.
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Old 06-18-2022, 10:10 AM
 
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Reminds me when Obama built a giant wall, to fortify his 9 bedroom mansion in DC, while criticizing Trump for wanting to secure the southern border. Remember that doozy?

https://news.yahoo.com/president-oba...010216232.html
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Old 06-18-2022, 10:27 AM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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I don’t know about that. Compared to Trump there is really no bigger grifter on the planet, I think. But keep worrying about 3 presidents ago, if it makes you feel better.
Trump made his money because he had a product people wanted for decades and still want. He earned his money in the private sector. Obama scammed his using identity politics and the government trough paid for by people's hard earned tax dollars. If there is a grifter it's Obama in every sense of the word. He's a liar and hypocrite like most Leftists.
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Old 06-18-2022, 10:35 AM
 
Location: Rochester, WA
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The hypocrisy is amazing. And that's one of the nicer terms I would use.

Gas For Me But Not For Thee: Obama To Install Massive Propane Tanks In New England Mansion



the office told TheDCNF, and have a total capacity approved of “2,500 gallons which was broken into two 1,000 gallon tanks and one 500 gallon tank.”
I love pointing out hypocrisy as much as anyone, but that's really not "massive". We have a 500 gallon tank here and we only have a propane fireplace we use for decorative ambiance and backup supplemental heat, and we go through at least a full tank over winter and sometimes have to re-fill.

If we had gas appliances, stove, heat, hot water, etc... we would easily go through 2500 gallons in a typical winter and being on an island, it may well be better for them to buy in volume. The capacity doesn't seem out of the range of normal American useage, and I don't think anyone is expecting the Obamas to be roughing it.
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Old 06-18-2022, 10:49 AM
 
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Propane is better than natural gas in many ways, especially for cooking and heating. I’m not a fan of Obama but we don’t know what his home may already have for energy efficiency. Even if he has solar panels and an electric induction stove and a heat pump central heating system he may still have other things that make propane more efficient. For example, perhaps he has a propane tankless water heater and propane oven? Perhaps he has a heat pump system with a propane backup heat source should the outside air temperature become too cold for heat pumps to heat the home. Perhaps he has a propane fireplace to augment the home’s heating. Natural gas is good in price and having a constant supply piped into the home but if released can be considered a greenhouse gas and doesn’t burn as hot and clean as propane.
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Old 06-18-2022, 10:54 AM
 
Location: Retired in VT; previously MD & NJ
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Trump made his money because he had a product people wanted for decades and still want. He earned his money in the private sector. Obama scammed his using identity politics and the government trough paid for by people's hard earned tax dollars. If there is a grifter it's Obama in every sense of the word. He's a liar and hypocrite like most Leftists.


Obama wrote books and gave speeches to make money. Just like most exPresidents before him.
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Old 06-18-2022, 10:54 AM
 
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Skimpiness for thee peasants, but no way for me, signed; Barack, Ahlghore and every
rich, sheltered, gated-mansion Democrat out there.
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Old 06-18-2022, 10:56 AM
 
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Hopefully there’ll be a leak when peckerhead is out back smoking one his Marlboro lights.
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Old 06-18-2022, 01:21 PM
 
Location: Texas Hill Country
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Yes, something like that. A 500 gallon tank is what I have here on the ranch so for what he has, it doesn't sound like "massive" to me.
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