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Old 06-17-2022, 12:49 PM
 
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I wouldn't say that was a "de facto" position. Conservatives are more reasonable than you think.

Now there are many people that are much more far right than conservatives are. I consider them the George Bush type of who are more pro-war than most conservatives are. Typically they would frown upon some conservatives for being not fiscally conservative enough.
Really? Many of your guys are still running on the "invisible voter fraud and ballots printed on Asian paper and fed to chickens" platform.

 
Old 06-17-2022, 01:04 PM
 
Location: Free State of Florida
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The problem with being Liberal is that your world is beginning to crash down around you...beginning with Glenn Youngkin's win in Virginia and Mayra Flores's big flip in Texas a few days ago.

You're an emotional train wreck now, & your fear of self-reliance is beginning to kick in every time CNN & the NYT trashes Biden, which is daily

You are having a hard time shielding yourself from reality....Roe v Wade is in peril, Latino's are breaking mucho for Republicans, & Black males are down w/ the Pubs too. Your hive is breaking apart, & you are feeling increasingly alone with each passing day
 
Old 06-17-2022, 01:10 PM
 
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Really? Many of your guys are still running on the "invisible voter fraud and ballots printed on Asian paper and fed to chickens" platform.
Okay that's dern near accurate!

Liberals basically are ' we the people,'
Conservatives are ' profit before people'.
Hasn't changed despite the bizzaro events some groups cling to.

If there is one problem facing the liberal ...it's being treated with some respect when the messenger DOES have the interest of ' the people' .
 
Old 06-17-2022, 01:16 PM
 
Location: King County, WA
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It is entirely possible to possess certain liberal traits without being left-leaning. All it takes is a certain level of tolerance for differences. Too much of that intolerance is driven by hate, not necessarily by political philosophy. You can be fiscally conservative and support the military and law enforcement, yet still be a tolerant person.
 
Old 06-17-2022, 01:16 PM
 
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Okay that's dern near accurate!

Liberals basically are ' we the people,'
Conservatives are ' profit before people'.
Hasn't changed despite the bizzaro events some groups cling to.

If there is one problem facing the liberal ...it's being treated with some respect when the messenger DOES have the interest of ' the people' .
not even close and still more ad hominem.

NOTHING close to showing how Conservatives have shifted to the extreme right.

Go back and read the OP. It was point by point examples of POSITIONS that the left used to have that are now considered "conservative". The OP clearly shows a left lurch by Liberalism in America.

Ive asked repeatedly for someone to point out the POSITIONS conservatives have that indicate a "extreme right lurch".

even this nonsense about liberal respect. Liberals created "DOXING" which is certainly NOT respectful.

It is perfectly clear to me that both the right and left have become far more intolerant of dissent both from within and the other side. But when it comes to POLICY, I have yet to see someone point out the actual policy on the right that has shifted.
 
Old 06-17-2022, 01:23 PM
 
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It is entirely possible to possess certain liberal traits without being left-leaning. All it takes is a certain level of tolerance for differences. Too much of that intolerance is driven by hate, not necessarily by political philosophy.
Oh good grief. that's just nonsense. "Hate" is just a defense mechanism of the left to cope with the fact that their POLICIES are so utterly rejected.

the left doesn't want tolerance. they demand everyone Participate.
It isn't enough that a baker doesn't think twice about serving people without regard to their Orientation. the baker is REQUIRED to PARTICIPATE in gay weddings.

It isn't enough that trans people be accepted and treated with tolerance. NO Conservatives have to bring their 5 year olds to listen to Drag Queens read children's books while cavorting like a stripper.
 
Old 06-17-2022, 01:23 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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yea im not seeing that on the right.

please provide the examples of extreme conservative views that hold sway?
It's about Republicans candidates campaigning with the claim they are 100% Pro-life with no exceptions. If they didn't hold sway, they wouldn't campaign like that. One of them is the Republican front runner for U. S. Senator in Oklahoma.
 
Old 06-17-2022, 01:29 PM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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It isn't enough that a baker doesn't think twice about serving people without regard to their Orientation. the baker is REQUIRED to PARTICIPATE in gay weddings.

It isn't enough that trans people be accepted and treated with tolerance. NO Conservatives have to bring their 5 year olds to listen to Drag Queens read children's books while cavorting like a stripper.
Liberals don't think it is good enough for sexually degenerate people to keep their activities inside the bedroom.

It has to be celebrated everywhere and taught to small children. Otherwise, they think they're being discriminated against.
 
Old 06-17-2022, 01:31 PM
 
Location: Cali
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The problem with being Liberal is that your world is beginning to crash down around you...beginning with Glenn Youngkin's win in Virginia and Mayra Flores's big flip in Texas a few days ago.

You're an emotional train wreck now, & your fear of self-reliance is beginning to kick in every time CNN & the NYT trashes Biden, which is daily

You are having a hard time shielding yourself from reality....Roe v Wade is in peril, Latino's are breaking mucho for Republicans, & Black males are down w/ the Pubs too. Your hive is breaking apart, & you are feeling increasingly alone with each passing day
Don’t forget to mention San Francisco voters just recalled and fired the Marxist DA Chesa Boudin

Yes, San Francisco
 
Old 06-17-2022, 01:56 PM
 
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It's about Republicans candidates campaigning with the claim they are 100% Pro-life with no exceptions. If they didn't hold sway, they wouldn't campaign like that. One of them is the Republican front runner for U. S. Senator in Oklahoma.
That isnt a policy shift. but at least we are talking about policy.

It used to be that pro-life pols were from both parties (and pro-choice) that changed in the 80s.
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