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Old 06-26-2022, 07:19 PM
 
Location: Honolulu, HI
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Originally Posted by ansible90 View Post
Those people you list are not living inside another person and feeding off her, are they? They have been born. Big difference being born or not.

Try again with a better analogy.
Those people are living off life support, and need breathing and feeding tubes.

So when do you want to pull their plug?

“Sorry doctor, they’re in a coma but we need to pull the plug. They’ll never notice it!”

 
Old 06-26-2022, 07:20 PM
 
Location: California side of the Sierras
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Then you can enjoy the new ruling by the SC. Thanks.
My governor is already on it.
 
Old 06-26-2022, 07:21 PM
 
Location: California side of the Sierras
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Those people are living off life support.

So when do you want to pull their plug?

“Sorry doctor, they’re in a coma but we need to pull the plug.”
Inside a uterus?
 
Old 06-26-2022, 07:22 PM
 
Location: Honolulu, HI
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My governor is already on it.
And you’re free to drive women to your state for abortions on demand at anytime.
 
Old 06-26-2022, 07:23 PM
 
Location: Honolulu, HI
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Inside a uterus?
You claimed a fetus can’t speak or be aware.

Plenty of humans can’t speak or be aware.

Clearly you’ve never been to a hospital.
 
Old 06-26-2022, 07:24 PM
 
Location: Chicago Area
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The unborn are not persons. Future persons, perhaps, but while in the womb. And that's ignoring the fact that it's despicable of anyone to force a woman to carry an unwanted pregnancy to term. It's no one's business but hers.
Please point me to where that is clearly legally defined. And can said legal definition be change? By whom?

Now as a blanket statement, it's pure nonsense, and smack of the same logic that Hitler used to exterminate the Jews. "Those Jews aren't actually people. They're demons masquerading as human beings!" And by thusly dehumanizing a group of human beings, now anyone wishing to kill said human beings could now do so with impunity. After all, "those Jews weren't actually people."

Same logic. Different group of humans. Dehumanizing people in order to excuse murdering them is disgusting and really needs to stop.
 
Old 06-26-2022, 07:24 PM
 
Location: California side of the Sierras
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And you’re free to drive women to your state at anytime.
Indeed.
 
Old 06-26-2022, 07:26 PM
 
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That’s up to the state.
No, it's not.
 
Old 06-26-2022, 07:26 PM
 
Location: California side of the Sierras
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You claimed a fetus can’t speak or be aware.

Plenty of humans can’t speak or be aware.

Clearly you’ve never been to a hospital.
You must be confusing me with someone else.
 
Old 06-26-2022, 07:26 PM
 
Location: Retired in VT; previously MD & NJ
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Those people are living off life support, and need breathing and feeding tubes.

So when do you want to pull their plug?

“Sorry doctor, they’re in a coma but we need to pull the plug. They’ll never notice it!”
Plugs are pulled all the time when doctor and family so decide. Is removing medical care considered murder? I don't think so. Do you?

And again, those people are not living inside another person and directly feeding off her blood supply.

Born or not born makes a difference.
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