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Old 08-12-2022, 10:01 PM
 
Location: 23.7 million to 162 million miles North of Venus
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Kash Patel, a Pentagon chief of staff during the Trump administration, stated that the documents recovered from Mar-a-Lago had been declassified by Trump, but their markings were not updated. “Trump declassified whole sets of materials in anticipation of leaving government that he thought the American public should have the right to read themselves,” Patel said then.
They like to ignore that he'd said that.

 
Old 08-12-2022, 10:03 PM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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The documents are only accessible in a SCIF. There are temporary SCIFs.
IIRC Obama travelled with a portable SCIF.
 
Old 08-12-2022, 10:05 PM
 
Location: 23.7 million to 162 million miles North of Venus
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That one was Top Secret. If you couldn’t read it, it’s because you didn’t have the proper clearance.
It was still your best. I doubt you will ever be able to top it .
 
Old 08-12-2022, 10:07 PM
 
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Forgot to add that the propaganda machines are starting up. The real risk here is that people who are not familiar with American laws will actually believe the nonsense in this video. And it hurts us republicans in the end because this fake information is being pushed.
 
Old 08-12-2022, 10:07 PM
 
Location: Retired in VT; previously MD & NJ
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How long did it take for the Biden regimen to figure out documents were missing???
How many times are you going to ask the same question? Do you think the answer will change from last time?


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Old 08-12-2022, 10:07 PM
 
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If talking about only a few documents, one could say it was a clerical error. Looking at the inventory list on the warrant, there are way too many documents for it to be a clerical error.

Trump did not follow the correct process to declassify those documents. He had no business taking classified documents home with him.
Yep.........the quantity of oopsies will factor into determining intent.
 
Old 08-12-2022, 10:09 PM
 
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He removed documents constantly to take home and declassified them. The fact that clerical work was mismanaged is an error in the process.
He's not allowed to remove nuclear documents from SCIFs to take home without them being declassified first. In this case, he had illegally moved classified documents to his home. There could have been a clerical error, but that's not the issue. The issue is that he removed classified documents he wasn't allowed to.
 
Old 08-12-2022, 10:13 PM
 
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They like to ignore that he'd said that.
Exactly. Here he is:

"If he says something is declassified, that's it, it is declassified," Patel explained. "He declassified a whole set of documents that should have come out... That's on the National Archives to sort that material out... Even if it was classified, they'll never meet the burden of intent because the president didn't pack it up and take it out himself, the G.S.A. has said they did it and they made a mistake."

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/vi...ent_trump.html
 
Old 08-12-2022, 10:15 PM
 
Location: Free State of Florida
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The documents are only accessible in a SCIF. There are temporary SCIFs.
There was a SCIF located at MAL, first referenced in the 2017 "Football Incident" and again in referenced around the time of the Capitol Riots. Operationally, the situation appears similar to JFK's Peanut Island bunker. Hillary Clinton has a SCIF at her home while SoS.

Is there a formal process to decommission a SCIF? How are documents to be transported from one SCIF to another?

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Old 08-12-2022, 10:15 PM
 
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He's not allowed to remove nuclear documents from SCIFs to take home without them being declassified first. In this case, he had illegally moved classified documents to his home. There could have been a clerical error, but that's not the issue. The issue is that he removed classified documents he wasn't allowed to.
See post 4429 please
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