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Old 08-12-2022, 10:17 PM
 
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Exactly. Here he is:

"If he says something is declassified, that's it, it is declassified," Patel explained. "
The entire premise here is wrong, unfortunately. If he says they are declassified, then they are to become declassified. But they aren't automatically declassified. Until they are remarked, they are to be handled as classified documents.

From the politifact article linked to above (which also referenced Patel):

""Merely proclaiming a document or group of documents declassified and doing nothing more would not suffice," Bradley Moss, a Washington, D.C.-based lawyer who works on national security cases, told PolitiFact.

Follow-through is required.

"He had to identify the specific documents he was declassifying, he needed to memorialize the order in writing for bureaucratic and historical purposes, and he needed to have staff physically modify the classification markings on the documents themselves," Moss said. "Until that was done, the documents, per the security classification procedures, still have to be handled, transmitted and stored as if they were classified."

Tom Blanton, director of the National Security Archive at George Washington University, agreed.

"If the documents are still marked classified 18 months after their removal from the White House," Blanton told PolitiFact, "then Trump was too busy to order them declassified at the time.""

 
Old 08-12-2022, 10:18 PM
 
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See post 4429 please
See post 4432 please
 
Old 08-12-2022, 10:26 PM
 
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Forgot to add that the propaganda machines are starting up. The real risk here is that people who are not familiar with American laws will actually believe the nonsense in this video. And it hurts us republicans in the end because this fake information is being pushed.
You don't want to know what's in the affidavit?
 
Old 08-12-2022, 10:28 PM
 
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Originally Posted by ansible90 View Post
How many times are you going to ask the same question? Do you think the answer will change from last time?


.
Yeah.but,
do you know the correct answer???
 
Old 08-12-2022, 10:29 PM
 
Location: Retired in VT; previously MD & NJ
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Yeah.but,
do you know the correct answer???
Psst. It's a secret.
 
Old 08-12-2022, 10:33 PM
 
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Unfortunately for him, in this case, is that he may have failed to declassify them before removing them... which is illegal.
Just having any presidential documents in his possession at all is illegal. No?
 
Old 08-12-2022, 10:34 PM
 
Location: Retired in VT; previously MD & NJ
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Just having any presidential documents in his possession at all is illegal. No?
Yes. That too.
 
Old 08-12-2022, 10:35 PM
 
Location: Honolulu, HI
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Under U.S. Code Title 18, the penalty for treason is death. If Trump took these classified documents with the intention of passing them to, or selling them to, a nation like Russia or China, then he should face the proper and legal penalty. That was my presumption.
Please explain why a billionaire, on presidential pension, would need to sell classified information to countries who already have nukes.

Your presumption is baseless.
 
Old 08-12-2022, 10:37 PM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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You don't want to know what's in the affidavit?
Nah. I’ll wait and find out when the indictments drop.
 
Old 08-12-2022, 10:38 PM
 
Location: Free State of Florida
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Just having any presidential documents in his possession at all is illegal. No?
As mentioned in an earlier post, there was a SCIF located at MAL, first referenced in the 2017 "Football Incident" and again in referenced around the time of the Capitol Riots. Operationally, the situation appears similar to JFK's Peanut Island bunker. Hillary Clinton has a SCIF at her home while she was Secretary of State.

How long does SCIF accreditation endure? How is a SCIF decommissioned? How are secure documents physically transported once a SCIF is decommissioned?
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