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Old 08-13-2022, 12:54 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Wapasha View Post
Exactly. The Trump team had been cooperating completely with the DOJ and records office. But those were the professionals. Garland came in with the political action committee wing of the FBI, who brought their fishing gear with them.

Garland lied and says this was a focused search, which simply means he puppets threw a large fishing net over everything, took it back to their den, to see what they netted. Garland will make up whatever charges he want, and tell the corrupt news media how to spin it in a way that the stupid people will believe.
Wow. Someone is making things up, but I don't think it's Garland.

 
Old 08-13-2022, 12:54 PM
 
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We found the hidden documents...

 
Old 08-13-2022, 12:55 PM
 
Location: Retired in VT; previously MD & NJ
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It is when you are POTUS. Anyone else is delegated the task of declassifying documents and therefore has to follow a procedure but POTUS does not as he is the ultimate authority when it comes to declassification.
Yes POTUS has the AUTHORITY to declassify most things. He still needs to follow procedure and have it documented. Otherwise, nobody would know he did it.
 
Old 08-13-2022, 12:57 PM
 
Location: Retired in VT; previously MD & NJ
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When Trump said "I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody, and I wouldn't lose any voters," he must have been thinking of you.
 
Old 08-13-2022, 12:58 PM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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Regardless of what you think of the Russian collusion probe, it’s clear Wray was not Trump’s man. He would never pick someone with those views.
Wray is one of the few competent hires Trump ever made. Most of them were hired because they were lapdogs, sycophants, and boot lickers willing to help Trump stay out of trouble and enrich himself.
 
Old 08-13-2022, 12:58 PM
 
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So it is now being reported that he did indeed have highly classified/SCI documents at his home. Regardless of how he got them out he had them. Instead of people deflecting to how did he get them out why not focus on the fact that he did have them in his possession. If this turns out to be the case do you think he should be prosecuted?
We have only the DOJ's word on that and their track record is abysmal. The Warrant wasn't for "classified materials" -- it was for ALL materials during Trump's 4 year Presidency.
They claim they had a mole who told them what they were looking for and where to look for it…
So why was the Warrant not just for the 3 areas they told us - but was for the entire Estate and all rooms not occupied by guests (Mar-A-Lago is closed for the summer) and then spent NINE HOURS searching including in Melania’s wardrobe.

Kind of a clue they didn’t find what they were looking for. They were Fishing & possibly Planting

If the FBI waited 18 months to seize "nuclear documents" from a country club, everyone at the agency should be fired. This was so urgent that even after being given full access, they chose to leave material behind - 6 weeks later an Emergency Demand for a Search Warrant, so urgent they sat on it for 3 days waiting for the Trump Family to leave town.

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Provide a link where Trump has publicly stated--while he was in office--that those materials were officially de-classified. If you can't then it never happened.
This is what President Trump De-Classified and it's also exactly what the RAID was all about.
Trump has brought a large Civil Lawsuit (in the last several months) against those involved and they are desperate to get the evidence away from him. It's very awkward for the DOJ to specifically ask for these records, which is why to came up with the other ridiculous scenario.

These records are all about SPYGATE and the HOAX Russia,Russia,Russia DOJ/FBI/DNC/TeamObama attempt to keep Mr Trump from office and get rid of his after he was elected.

Memorandum on Declassification of Certain Materials Related to the FBI’s Crossfire Hurricane Investigation
LAW & JUSTICE
Issued on: January 19, 2021


Nobody is buying the TeamBiden Story about Trump.
Their only shot is to totally release ALL the Paperwork involved in the RAID - including the Affidavits - every word Un-Redacted. That's their only chance to convince the At Large Public this is not part of their 6 year long Witch Hunt.
 
Old 08-13-2022, 12:59 PM
 
Location: Retired in VT; previously MD & NJ
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There's still a process--it's not a verbal "I declassified these" and it's done.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-classified-records/
Thank you for posting this.
 
Old 08-13-2022, 12:59 PM
 
Location: Wouldn't you like to know?
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Originally Posted by berdee View Post
Exactly!

The Trump haters are being played.

Yep.

They have been played for years already. They are too stupid to know they are stupid.
 
Old 08-13-2022, 01:06 PM
 
Location: 23.7 million to 162 million miles North of Venus
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Sorry, I wasn't clear in my thought. It was debunked as being possibly exculpatory. Apologies.
You were very clear in your thoughts.
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You are correct, Trump certainly could have thought he declassified every document he ever saw. The commentators both agreed that if that had happened, there is so far no evidence of it. And in any event, it's not relevant to the suspected crimes in question.
So, prove that everything that he'd declassified has not been in the process of being entered into records as being such?

For a long time he's said he wanted to declassify many documents, and apparently he did .. a lot. How long do you think it would take to enter thousands, tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands, or more, of the declassifications into the records? It wouldn't happen overnight that's for sure, and it might take years.
 
Old 08-13-2022, 01:07 PM
 
Location: Beautiful NNJ
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Originally Posted by Kibby View Post
We have only the DOJ's word on that and their track record is abysmal. The Warrant wasn't for "classified materials" -- it was for ALL materials during Trump's 4 year Presidency.
They claim they had a mole who told them what they were looking for and where to look for it…
So why was the Warrant not just for the 3 areas they told us - but was for the entire Estate and all rooms not occupied by guests (Mar-A-Lago is closed for the summer) and then spent NINE HOURS searching including in Melania’s wardrobe.

Kind of a clue they didn’t find what they were looking for. They were Fishing & possibly Planting

If the FBI waited 18 months to seize "nuclear documents" from a country club, everyone at the agency should be fired. This was so urgent that even after being given full access, they chose to leave material behind - 6 weeks later an Emergency Demand for a Search Warrant, so urgent they sat on it for 3 days waiting for the Trump Family to leave town.

This is what President Trump De-Classified and it's also exactly what the RAID was all about.
Trump has brought a large Civil Lawsuit (in the last several months) against those involved and they are desperate to get the evidence away from him. It's very awkward for the DOJ to specifically ask for these records, which is why to came up with the other ridiculous scenario.

These records are all about SPYGATE and the HOAX Russia,Russia,Russia DOJ/FBI/DNC/TeamObama attempt to keep Mr Trump from office and get rid of his after he was elected.

Memorandum on Declassification of Certain Materials Related to the FBI’s Crossfire Hurricane Investigation
LAW & JUSTICE
Issued on: January 19, 2021


Nobody is buying the TeamBiden Story about Trump.
Their only shot is to totally release ALL the Paperwork involved in the RAID - including the Affidavits - every word Un-Redacted. That's their only chance to convince the At Large Public this is not part of their 6 year long Witch Hunt.
Well look! This link proves that Trump knows how to declassify things according to the rules. How about that?

So if there are similar memos and directives for all of the Top Secret documents seized in the raid, it might be true that he declassified everything. (But it's still not relevant.)
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