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Old 08-25-2022, 10:32 AM
 
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What about Hispanic kids who get hit with the slipper? Does that make the kid violent? My one cousin got a wooden spoon on the backside.

For centuries, physical punishment has worked well. I would not consent to this for my kid in school, but they did get spanked at home. Not beaten. And not repeatedly hit. When they went to touch the stovetop, and a firm ‘no’ wasn’t working, they got their hand smacked. Better that than burns. When they wanted to pull their hand out of mine and run into the street while walking (we lived in NYC), they got a smack on the butt. Better than being hit by a car.

If you can prevent a damaging behavior before it becomes a problem, maybe it’s not such a bad thing. I still am not sure it’s a good idea to let a teacher spank a kid, and by the age of five kids should have already been taught, but I’m not convinced it’s as wrong as some here are saying. Conflicted.
It was not an argument against spanking. I'm simply looking at the statistics and the current cultural and political culture.

I'm not trying to disagree with a smack on the bum. I'm talking about this. Per capita, no one gets whippings/corporal punishment more than Black youths, especially boys. Guess who is the most represented in committing violent crimes?
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Old 08-25-2022, 10:37 AM
 
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A swat with the paddle at school is not a beating. And yes, it taught a helluva lot of people to mind their manners before it was too late.
Exactly. Paddling or "cracks" as we called them were a thing when I was in school. My 8th grade teacher had a paddle hanging in his classroom with his fraternity letters engraved on it, Kappa Epsilon Kappa. He told us it stood for kill every kid. He was a very liked and respected teacher among the kids and parents.

Spanking was still a thing when mine started school but had phased out by the time they were in HS. I remember signing permission slips for paddling.

IMO, it never did any harm to the kids. Kids back then were more well behaved and respectful. Classrooms were not out of control, teachers were not attacked, kids got an education, there were not mass shootings and we didnt need police officers roaming the halls.
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Old 08-25-2022, 10:42 AM
 
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Nope, right thread.

A poster said that if her boss ever hit her, she's file a claim against them. So it's totally wrong to hit kids. Wrong for BOTH adults and kids.

I asked if there was an issue with asking about sexual identity or gender in the workplace, and she said hell no.

But kids are asked about it in schools. So it's totally wrong to ask someone at work (boss>employee) about gender/sex crap, but kids are FORCED to answer?

Getting hit by your superior, bad for adults and kids
Getting questioned about your gender and sex identity, bad for adults, but good for kids

Why?

If you aren't interested in the discussion, scroll on by. I don't mind.
Which has zero to do with this thread. You are attempting to introduce sex and gender issues into a thread about corporal punishment. Go start a thread about your outrage about gender issues if that's what you want to talk about. This thread has zero to do with it.
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Old 08-25-2022, 10:48 AM
 
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Which has zero to do with this thread. You are attempting to introduce sex and gender issues into a thread about corporal punishment. Go start a thread about your outrage about gender issues if that's what you want to talk about. This thread has zero to do with it.

I was NOT the poster who brought up adults in the workplace. Go bother them.

It's a spot on analogy. I realize you don't like it because it proves my point perfectly. No one should be asking kids in public schools about gender or sex identity.
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Old 08-25-2022, 10:48 AM
 
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Weirdos.
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Old 08-25-2022, 10:50 AM
 
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Which has zero to do with this thread. You are attempting to introduce sex and gender issues into a thread about corporal punishment. Go start a thread about your outrage about gender issues if that's what you want to talk about. This thread has zero to do with it.
For some people the two are intimately intertwined.
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Old 08-25-2022, 10:56 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Red states are screaming about groomers, but at the same time are allowing grown adults to spank children in schools... typical right wing garbage, talking out of both sides of their mouths..

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...le/7883625001/

I will look forward to the folks defending this with solid reasons for why children should be spanked by employees of schools in Missouri..
First of all it's a very small town. Most people know each other. It's not a difficult thing to be able to hear the opinions from every parent in a town this small. The parents can opt of of it. It looks to me like you are all wet, and you either didn't read the article, or you just want to complain.
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Old 08-25-2022, 11:00 AM
 
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First of all it's a very small town. Most people know each other. It's not a difficult thing to be able to hear the opinions from every parent in a town this small. The parents can opt of of it. It looks to me like you are all wet, and you either didn't read the article, or you just want to complain.
Population 167,000 -- they did not talk to every parent. (EDIT - I see it isn't Springfield but a town near by -- my apologies. 4,000 is a small town but I still am cynical about every parent providing input).


And sure some nutter will thank the school for disciplining their child, so the parent doesn't have to.
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Old 08-25-2022, 11:00 AM
 
Location: STL area
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Amazing how all these spanked children in this small town have such discipline problems at school that they feel the need to bring back corporal punishment. My non-spanked children are literally NEVER in trouble at school. Funny how that works…SW MO gonna SW MO though. I can see them…Mama with her meth mouth telling the school, go ahead and hit my kid, worked for me, look how well I turned out. Their way is working SO well for them…

https://www.city-data.com/crime/crim...-Missouri.html

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Old 08-25-2022, 11:04 AM
 
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Population 167,000 -- they did not talk to every parent.

That's just silly.

And sure some nutter will thank the school for disciplining their child, so the parent doesn't have to.
Population 4,000.

1,900 kids in the district.

read the article again.

Claims it was a policy and parents asked to bring it back. They did a survey, and here they are.

Facts are fun.
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