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Since abortion is the number one "healthcare issue" military vets are facing, that's what the president is focusing on. No matter that the Veterans Health Care Act of 1992 prohibits abortions at VA medical locations.
VA = Veteran Affairs aka military facilities NOT the state of Virginia. Sorry for the confusion.
The Department of Veterans Affairs plans to offer abortion access to veterans and eligible dependents in cases of rape, incest and pregnancies that endanger the life or health of an individual, arguing the change is needed after more than two dozen states banned the procedure this summer.
The move marks the first time VA physicians could perform abortions on federal property, even in states where it has been outlawed.
And of course there is the obligatory lie about Florida (allows abortions for any reason up to 15 weeks and then in cases where the mother's life is at risk apparently translates into "near total ban") tossed in there.
Texas, Florida, Kentucky, Louisiana and Ohio currently have near total bans on the procedure. VA operates 24 major medical centers in those five states alone.
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This is very promising. For some needing immediate care this provides an alternative to waiting for hospital administrators to cover their own backsides by delaying treatment. It's completely horrifying that doctors have to dance around and wait for the all-clear from administrators afraid of being prosecuted by over-zealous DAs. Now there is an option in these states and lives will be saved.
This is very promising. For some needing immediate care this provides an alternative to waiting for hospital administrators to cover their own backsides by delaying treatment. It's completely horrifying that doctors have to dance around and wait for the all-clear from administrators afraid of being prosecuted by over-zealous DAs. Now there is an option in these states and lives will be saved.
Thank you VA!
VA = military hospitals, not Virginia.
VA hospitals do not perform abortions. Because they are used for medical care for vets. They aren't convenience abortion clinics.
This is very promising. For some needing immediate care this provides an alternative to waiting for hospital administrators to cover their own backsides by delaying treatment. It's completely horrifying that doctors have to dance around and wait for the all-clear from administrators afraid of being prosecuted by over-zealous DAs. Now there is an option in these states and lives will be saved.
Thank you VA!
Alternative to waiting? You don't know how the VA operates...
Wait... did you say lives will be saved? You didn't think that one through...
Just curious - what percentage of abortions are actually specifically needed for medical purposes?
Medical science has progressed to the point where an abortion is never necessary to preserve the life or the health of the mother. This has been true for more than half a century.
Abortions performed to preserve the life or the health of the mother are so rare that they do not register statistically, according to Alan Guttmacher of Planned Parenthood, who did more to promote and spread abortion on demand throughout the world than any other individual.
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Studies by the Guttmacher Institute (AGI), the world’s leading pro-abortion research organization, show that only from one percent to three percent of all abortions are performed for medical reasons, but well over 90% are performed for economic and social (“convenience”) reasons.
Since abortion is the number one "healthcare issue" military vets are facing, that's what the president is focusing on. No matter that the Veterans Health Care Act of 1992 prohibits abortions at VA medical locations.
The Department of Veterans Affairs plans to offer abortion access to veterans and eligible dependents in cases of rape, incest and pregnancies that endanger the life or health of an individual, arguing the change is needed after more than two dozen states banned the procedure this summer.
The move marks the first time VA physicians could perform abortions on federal property, even in states where it has been outlawed.
And of course there is the obligatory lie about Florida (allows abortions for any reason up to 15 weeks and then in cases where the mother's life is at risk apparently translates into "near total ban") tossed in there.
Texas, Florida, Kentucky, Louisiana and Ohio currently have near total bans on the procedure. VA operates 24 major medical centers in those five states alone.
That's only 1.7% of all abortions. The other 98.3% are convenience abortions. You know, the 914,000+ abortions per year that kill a healthy developing baby in a healthy pregnancy just because the pregnant woman "doesn't want a baby."
It is good to see that they won't perform convenience abortions.
Medical science has progressed to the point where an abortion is never necessary to preserve the life or the health of the mother. This has been true for more than half a century.
Abortions performed to preserve the life or the health of the mother are so rare that they do not register statistically, according to Alan Guttmacher of Planned Parenthood, who did more to promote and spread abortion on demand throughout the world than any other individual.
...
Studies by the Guttmacher Institute (AGI), the world’s leading pro-abortion research organization, show that only from one percent to three percent of all abortions are performed for medical reasons, but well over 90% are performed for economic and social (“convenience”) reasons.
I love a source that says "zero" and then in the fine print says 1-3%.
Medical science has progressed to the point where an abortion is never necessary to preserve the life or the health of the mother. This has been true for more than half a century.
Abortions performed to preserve the life or the health of the mother are so rare that they do not register statistically, according to Alan Guttmacher of Planned Parenthood, who did more to promote and spread abortion on demand throughout the world than any other individual.
...
Studies by the Guttmacher Institute (AGI), the world’s leading pro-abortion research organization, show that only from one percent to three percent of all abortions are performed for medical reasons, but well over 90% are performed for economic and social (“convenience”) reasons.
That link is incorrect. The reasons have been explained many times, no need to list them again. These are the same folks that think ectopic and tubal pregnancies don't need to be terminated. They also have no problems letting women die from sepsis and other preventable issues, and take great pleasure in forcing women to carry a non-viable fetus to term. And it's still none of their business what medical procedure a woman and her doctor decide is appropriate.
VA hospitals do not perform abortions. Because they are used for medical care for vets. They aren't convenience abortion clinics.
The article you just posted says the VA hospitals now do perform abortions.
Abortions do not only occur in facilities labeled "abortion clinics." They can be done in outpatient clinics and hospitals, and abortion pills can be given in a doctor's office.
Your term "convenience abortion" is yours alone. The VA hospitals don't have to wait for a dying fetus to be fully dead or the woman to be suffering from sepsis before they will abort.
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