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Old 09-10-2022, 08:58 AM
 
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Yeh right its not like police officers can ever be scapegoated, and basically hung out to dry by the public. They don't need any kind of protection that a collective can possibly offer.

As for teachers, education needs to be privatized.

For-profit college education is crap so be careful what you wish for. Teachers should be normal employees of the school district, the market should determine the compensation based on teacher skills and accomplishments.
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Old 09-10-2022, 09:00 AM
 
Location: King County, WA
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That act alone would further diminish the middle class, so nope.
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Old 09-10-2022, 01:56 PM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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No, Mr. Koch. I would not. We already have the worst worker conditions and benefits in the developed world. What little we do have is because of unions.
This. We need unions to keep the greedy corps in check
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Old 09-10-2022, 01:59 PM
 
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No. There would be no safe working conditions without the unions.
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Old 09-10-2022, 04:40 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Private unions had a place 100 years ago or so to create safe working environments. Now they are not needed, as they exist solely to be a cancer to their host company.

Public unions exist solely to fleece the taxpayer. They should be illegal.
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Old 09-10-2022, 04:44 PM
 
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Unions fighting for more and more money (while the bosses live high off the hog)(my uncle was one) eventually price their workers right out of the market, like the steel workers union.
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Old 09-10-2022, 06:04 PM
 
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The present system works fine. We have dozens of RTW states, which have the best rules, as it does not prevent anyone from joining a union, while not forcing anyone to-as a condition of employment.
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Old 09-10-2022, 08:39 PM
 
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For-profit college education is crap so be careful what you wish for. Teachers should be normal employees of the school district, the market should determine the compensation based on teacher skills and accomplishments.
LOL college/Flagship Uni is crap now. If there was only private education, then you will have tiers from bad to good. You want good education, you find one you like, and pay for it. It can be either pay first, or pay at end when you are satisfied. Its all up to the school and the student.

The Dept of Education should be in charge of testing/trials, and accreditation, not to the school, but to the student. The school's job is to prep the student for the trials. The are measure by how many students they get to pass the Dept of Education standards.

If you want the market to determine compensation based on skills and accomplishments, then the market needs to be privatized.
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Old 09-11-2022, 02:29 AM
 
Location: Lexington, Kentucky
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No, Mr. Koch. I would not. We already have the worst worker conditions and benefits in the developed world. What little we do have is because of unions.

This.
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Old 09-11-2022, 06:02 AM
 
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70 percent of the United States economy is consumption....the biggest consumer groups are the lower and middle classes. You had better make sure they have money to consume...or else our economy will literally collapse. For that reason I've been a union man my entire working life.
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