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View Poll Results: Will your next vehicle purchase be an electric vehicle?
No - I'm sticking with gas powered 144 78.26%
Yes, I prefer the electric vehicle 24 13.04%
Other type powered vehicle 11 5.98%
I don't drive 5 2.72%
Voters: 184. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 09-26-2022, 01:44 PM
 
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I probably will buy electric with my next car purchase, but I just bought a car last year so that purchase will be a few years out. I have a buddy that drives his Tesla between San Diego and Houston several times a year. I generally don't drive too many places that don't have good charging infrastructure now, much less in a few years. Plus going to the gas station is usually one of my least favorite parts of the day and I'd rather avoid them.

Add in the fact electric vehicles are quieter, heavier (in case of accidents they *generally* do better) and more efficient - it's a no brainer to me. Upfront costs are a bit higher, but I expect that delta to be much smaller in 3-5 years.
How would a heavier car do better in an accident? Evs weigh 10-20% more on average than ICE vehicles. That means more INERTIA. Harder collisions in accidents, more wear on tires, more wear on brakes, harder to steer, less agile, etc.

Weight is a bad thing, not a good thing.

Seems like we're regressing instead or progressing, no?
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Old 09-26-2022, 01:47 PM
 
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True but all in EVs win easily because of ICE heat and pump losses. It's not even remotely close and it all be worse and worse for ICEs into the future.
You seem to not know much about EVs. EVs are terribly slow on the top end BECAUSE OF HEAT issues. They are limited in how fast they can go in their software.

What are "pump losses?" There is no EV in the world that is as fast as the fastest ICE vehicle today.
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Old 09-26-2022, 01:47 PM
 
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I have been driving my current BMW 5-series for 12 years. It is garage kept and I do my own maintenance. I will drive it until the wheels fall off. I haven't found anything that comes close to the ride or performance.
Exactly! I had a 2000 BMW 528i with the straight six. Best car I've ever owned. Ran flawless for 18 years. I did my own service & maintenance on it myself too. It was the best car I've ever owned and I loved it so much, I bought another 5 series in 2018. I gave the 2000 to someone I know and he's still driving it around today.
The straight 6 cylinders are one of the very best engines BMW ever made.
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Old 09-26-2022, 01:48 PM
 
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I won't consider it until the infrastructure is similar to gas powered, with charging stations all over the place, the tech to charge quickly, then maybe.
And it will never get to that because EVs aren't compelling enough for the majority to demand that we spend the trillions of dollars and invest the years it would take to do this, while eschewing gas.
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Old 09-26-2022, 01:51 PM
 
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My Pontiac Trans Am identifies as a hybrid, it burns both gas and oil.
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Old 09-27-2022, 01:32 AM
 
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Or what if someone gets into the car with you to kidnap you and the car refuses to hit the "gas" and run into the nearest object to put the creep thru the windscreen? That was a defence a few years ago incase someone tried to abduct you in your car.......
That's a legit one. Though there are countless situations where this tech can go south, we have to consider that the development of A.I. vehicles is merely at the beginning (and yet a lot of progress is made).

Garry Kasparov's interesting thought about A.I.: "the things we know how we do - machines will do better, and the things that we do good, but we still don't know how we do them that way - humans will do better".

When he said that, he was thinking of A.I. chess. But, the same logic can apply to A.I. vehicles. We know the characteristics of a safe driver, and we know how to drive safe - so there's just a matter of time before we learn the machines to do that better than us.
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