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Old 09-25-2022, 11:09 AM
 
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If you are referring to Trump there is no proof that he knowingly had any illegals working for him. Rich businessmen do not hire manual laborers themselves. The ones discovered had used fake or stolen documents to gain employment on his golf course. They were promptly fired and Trump now uses e-verify on all of his properties. Try again!
The problem POTUS trump had was not having his supervisors use the tools available to verify citizenship. E Verify checks papers, not people. And many times those papers are fake or stolen. DH had to put on an additional payroll clerk to check the citizenship of the people hired by subcontractors.
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Old 09-25-2022, 11:10 AM
 
Location: Where my bills arrive
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The blame is squarely on the voters- they voted for those politicians.
Too often the choice is the frying pan or the skillet people pick what they perceive is the lesser of 2 evils.
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Old 09-25-2022, 11:16 AM
 
Location: Where my bills arrive
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If you are referring to Trump there is no proof that he knowingly had any illegals working for him. Rich businessmen do not hire manual laborers themselves. The ones discovered had used fake or stolen documents to gain employment on his golf course. They were promptly fired and Trump now uses e-verify on all of his properties. Try again!
Yes he always ensures he has enough separation from whatever violation to not be held accountable, including employees, business deals, or anything he says on social media. Its never his fault...
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Old 09-25-2022, 11:37 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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A couple of things - that article is ten years old, from a minor TV station in Indianapolis. None of the links in it are still functional, so there is no way to investigate the back story.

Do you have a link to any data that is more current and searchable? I'm not saying it's true or false, simply that a single source is always suspect without examination.
Here's a good place to start:

https://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/R44290.pdf

Remember, too, that illegal aliens file for refundable tax credits using stolen SS#s and the IRS does absolutely nothing about it. They don't even have to inform anyone that another person is illegally using their SS#.

https://americanmilitarynews.com/201...-report-taxes/

And as revealed by the IRS Commissioner in response to a question from Sen. Dan Coats, R-Ind., at a Senate Finance Committee meeting:

IRS Admits It Encourages Illegals To Steal Social Security Numbers For Tax Filing Purposes
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Old 09-25-2022, 11:38 AM
 
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The problem POTUS trump had was not having his supervisors use the tools available to verify citizenship. E Verify checks papers, not people. And many times those papers are fake or stolen. DH had to put on an additional payroll clerk to check the citizenship of the people hired by subcontractors.
He was using e-verify on all of his properties except his golf courses. However, since fraud occurred with these illegals he uses e-verify on all of his properties now even though he is not required by law to do so. Give credit where credit is due. Better late than never.
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Old 09-25-2022, 11:41 AM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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The problem is that the Democrats will not sign an e-verify law so many times the employers get fooled by fake or stolen documents. Under Trump several business owners were held accountable. What's an undocumented immigrant anyhow?

It's not only jobs that bring them here but birthright citizenship for their kids, benefits and the constant promises of amnesty from the Democrats. The Democrats don't wish to fix any of that and won't finish the wall either.
E-verify won't catch them all. See post #8.
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Old 09-25-2022, 11:42 AM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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Be prepared for the costs of California produce to go through the roof! You realize that area grows about 60% of America's vegetables?
I always wanted to know what a six-dollar tomato tastes like. Get rid of the immigrants, you will find out.
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Old 09-25-2022, 11:44 AM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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There is no excuse for violating our labor and immigration laws no matter how you want to spin it. Using a fake or stolen SS# is committing felony ID theft and it matters not how hard they seem to work either. It IS a one way street! Using someone else's SS # can put the real owner in a world of hurt but it's ok because SS taxes are being put into the fund? Illegals do not support a strong economy when they steal jobs, taxes and resources from Americans. Their social costs are over $100 billion a year and they do send billions out of our country not spent in our economy.
Which means their labor generated ten or more times that amount that stayed right here.
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Old 09-25-2022, 11:45 AM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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If you are referring to Trump there is no proof that he knowingly had any illegals working for him. Rich businessmen do not hire manual laborers themselves. The ones discovered had used fake or stolen documents to gain employment on his golf course. They were promptly fired and Trump now uses e-verify on all of his properties. Try again!
He owns the place. If the illegals were working at MAL, lock him up, not the one who hired them. THAT is how you address the issue if you really want results.
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Old 09-25-2022, 11:50 AM
 
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Be prepared for the costs of California produce to go through the roof! You realize that area grows about 60% of America's vegetables?
Some states will just turn to prison labor to make up the shortfall. The average American citizen won't do such harsh labor under certain wages. If picking fruit pays as much as working in a warehouse lifting boxes, the average American will go work at a warehouse. Prison labor, you can pay them peanuts.
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