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Some news came out of falling birth rates in China, and even a tiny decline (< 0.1%) in the population of the nation of 1.4 Billion people. Elon Musk's shrill public reaction was "Population collapse is an existential problem for humanity, not overpopulation!" For the record, the global population is increasing rapidly, and we added our last billion people in just 10 years. Elon Musk has personally sired at least 10 children - so he is certainly voting for overpopulation with his sperm.
Not only is Musk delusional about the direction of population growth, he purports to be someone who is deeply concerned about the environment and the state of earth under the pressures of man's influences - which are including but not limited to climate change, resource exhaustion, overdevelopment, habitat loss for wildlife, pollution - all of which are directly worsened by the growing population. I don't know if Elon Musk is aware of the concept of sustainability, but it appears he has no idea of what that refers to, let alone why we should pay any attention to it.
Yes, growth is good for the economy in the short to medium term. But endless growth is not sustainable, and in the long term, endless growth can only lead to increasingly dire circumstances for all - there is no escaping that fact.
Musk has been ranting about the terrible dangers posed by population collapse for some time now... he's clearly a very bright man, and yet, he's also got some inexplicably stupid ideas. Whether these are failures of intellect, or sanity, is not clear. https://www.cnn.com/2022/08/30/healt...ess/index.html
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Musk has been ranting about the terrible dangers posed by population collapse for some time now... he's clearly a very bright man, and yet, he's also got some inexplicably stupid ideas. Whether these are failures of intellect, or sanity, is not clear.
Musk did not invent this issue nore is he the only one who is alarmed. Over half the population of the world lives in a country where total fertility rate is below replacement level. Parts of urban china have the lowest fertility rate ever recorded.
That central UN projection has China’s population roughly halving 1426 million to 767 million by the end of the century. India is likely to have overtaken China as the world’s biggest nation in 2022.
Musk did not invent this issue nore is he the only one who is alarmed. Over half the population of the world lives in a country where total fertility rate is below replacement level. Parts of urban china have the lowest fertility rate ever recorded.
I've seen reports from early in 2022 that Beijing and Shanghai have birth rates < 1.0 and Shanghai is the location of the Tesla Gigafactory. I would suppose the factory already relies heavily on migrant labor from outside Shanghai.
Musk did not invent this issue nore is he the only one who is alarmed. Over half the population of the world lives in a country where total fertility rate is below replacement level. Parts of urban china have the lowest fertility rate ever recorded.
That central UN projection has China’s population roughly halving 1426 million to 767 million by the end of the century. India is likely to have overtaken China as the world’s biggest nation in 2022.
Do you believe that earth's population is collapsing? Do you believe that "Over half the population of the world lives in a country where total fertility rate is below replacement level. "?
Population increase would not necessarily translate to increased car/Tesla sales. Usually the preproducing crowd are those that are from lower socioeconomic class. Ideally, you want to maintain your population/work force and increase their wealth +/- education.
Maybe he's afraid there won't be enough people to buy his cars.
He is an eccentric man, I think he's proven that. But yes, that would be the rational reason to be concerned - is the short term to medium term economic risk implied by the demographic shifts - in China mind you, not on the entire planet, which actually has the opposite problem. Doesn't make him correct to be panicking and shrieking about the entire planet's population collapsing all the time.
Population increase would not necessarily translate to increased car/Tesla sales. Usually the preproducing crowd are those that are from lower socioeconomic class. Ideally, you want to maintain your population/work force and increase their wealth +/- education.
If you have more customers in the world, you should expect higher sales. Also, if the population demographics shift so that the elderly significantly outnumber the younger people, then the economy in the affected region will decline for the period where this demographic distribution holds.
Do you believe that earth's population is collapsing?
No it is not
Population is still increasing in Sub-Saharan Africa and Indian subcontinent. Population in Latin America is stablizing.
These are the countries in world where total fertility rate is over 5. All of hem are in Sub-Saharan Africa
6.82 Niger
5.83 Angola
5.63 Congo, Democratic Republic of the
5.54 Mali
5.46 Chad
5.43 Benin
5.36 Uganda
5.32 South Sudan
5.31 Somalia
5.03 Burundi
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Originally Posted by OutdoorLover
Do you believe that "Over half the population of the world lives in a country where total fertility rate is below replacement level. "?
Yes, absolutely and unequivocally.
The 3 most populous counries in the world sum to 39% of the world's population.
India TFR= 2.10
China TFR=1.45
United States TFR=1.84
CIA factbook says these are the countries in the world with the lowest total fertility rate.
1.08 Taiwan
1.10 Korea, South
1.16 Singapore
1.22 Hong Kong
1.22 Italy
1.22 Macau
1.24 Puerto Rico
1.27 Spain
1.32 Montserrat
1.35 British Virgin Islands
1.35 Mauritius
1.36 Bosnia and Herzegovina
1.38 Japan
1.40 Greece
1.40 Poland
1.43 Portugal
1.45 Andorra
1.45 China
1.45 Croatia
1.46 Serbia
1.46 Slovakia
1.48 Cyprus
1.48 Hungary
1.49 Czechia
1.50 Bulgaria
1.50 Malta
1.51 Austria
1.51 Belarus
1.51 North Macedonia
1.53 Monaco
1.53 San Marino
1.54 Albania
1.54 Latvia
1.54 Thailand
1.56 Ukraine
1.57 Canada
1.57 Germany
1.58 Guernsey
1.58 Switzerland
1.59 Moldova
1.59 Saint Pierre and Miquelon
1.60 Russia
1.60 Saint Helena, Ascension, and Tristan da Cunha
1.60 Slovenia
1.61 Estonia
1.61 Lithuania
1.63 United Kingdom
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