Former President Trump Has Been Indicted (Congress, attorneys, CNN, controversial)

[Chuckity]

Originally Posted by heySkippy

Are mug shots not public records? Not sure how they can withhold one.

Not in NY.

[DannyHobkins]

Originally Posted by GotHereQuickAsICould

If you got any evidence, go for it.

Since the left wont watch have been brainwashed to only watch fake news, CNN finally admitted that yes, there is evidence that the Chinese Government funneled $3M into the Biden Family a few days ago (buried in the News same day of Trump indictment).

https://nypost.com/2023/03/18/cnns-b...snt-look-good/

[Bureaucat]

Outside of his MAGA base Trump is despised. He has perhaps 44/45% of the vote nationally, but little chance to expand beyond that. In 2020, white non-college made up 58% of Trump’s vote, but only 27% of Biden’s. White non-college is the oldest demographic bloc in America and has been losing on average 3% of its share of eligible voters each 4 year POTUS cycle for decades. When Trump squeaked by in 2016 to win the Electoral College while losing by 2 million in the popular vote, white non-college accounted for 45% of all voters nationally. When he lost in 2020 by 7 million votes nationally the white non-college share had fallen to 41%. That base that currently produces the majority of R votes will continue to decrease as more voters in that group die than reach voting age.

https://www.npr.org/2020/09/03/90743...nue-to-decline

https://centerforpolitics.org/crysta...an-electorate/

Looking specifically at the swing states, here’s the change that occurred in the demographic that is Trump’s base (white non-Hispanic non-college graduate) and the groups that were Biden’s base (whites with a 4 year college degree or more plus all minority groups). You will notice that collectively between 2016 and 2020, white non-college dropped by 5 million while the more D groups rose by 18 million.

The number of voting-age white Americans without college degrees has dropped by more than five million in the past four years, while the number of minority voters and college-educated white voters has collectively increased by more than 13 million in the same period. In key swing states, the changes far outstrip Mr. Trump’s narrow 2016 margins.

ARIZONA: Trump margin in 2016 = 91,234
Since 2016, white non-college = +45,000
Since 2016, white college + minority = +498,000
2020 Results = Biden + 10,457
Swing since 2016 = D + 101,691

FLORIDA: Trump margin in 2016= 112,911
Since 2016, white non-college = -359,000
Since 2016, white college grad + minority = +1,579,000
2020 Results = Trump + 371,686
Swing since 2016 = R +258,775

GEORGIA: Trump margin in 2016 = 211,141
Since 2016, white non-college = -81,000
Since 2016, white college grad + minority = +542,000
2020 Results = +D 11,779
Swing since 2016= +D 222,920

MICHIGAN: Trump margin in 2016 = 10,704
Since 2016, white non-college = -248,000
Since 2016, white college grad + minority = +381,000
2020 results = +D 154,181
Swing since 2016= +D 164,885

NORTH CAROLINA: Trump margin in 2016= 173,315
Since 2016, white non-college = -73,000
Since 2016, white college grad + minority = +524,000
2020 results = R + 74,483
Swing since 2016 = +D 98,892

PENNSYLVANIA: 2016 Trump margin = 44,292
Since 2016, white non-college = -431,000
white college grad + minorities = +449,00
2020 results = +D 82,166
Swing since 2016 = +D 126,458

WISCONSIN: 2016 Trump margin = 22,748
White non- college = -48,000
White college grad+ minorities \= +140,000
2020 results = + D 20,682
Swing since 2016 = +D 43,440

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...ographics.html

Trump is a candidate that won the nomination of the Republican Party by doubling down on the R base which is predominantly white non-college. IMO, He is not a candidate that is likely to expand his support significantly among the demographic blocs that will continue to grow.

[RetireinPA]

Originally Posted by lookingaround12345

Trump doesn't own any rights to it so anybody can sell it. They may even use a law that prevents people from profiting off of their criminal activity at that point.

well, would not that prevent the eventual dem opponent from using it AS WELL?


you always own your own image. If you are captured in an open setting you can deny permission and your face gets blotched out. never watch 'cops'?

[TMSRetired]

As if CNN would report anything else ????

[chucksnee]

Mugshots are not public in NY:

https://www.wicz.com/story/40255428/...new-york-state

Mugshots, long thought of as public information in New York State, will no longer be accessible for the public and media. Not even under a Freedom of Information Law Request. That "mugshot ban" was passed into law as part of the 2020 state budget.

How long before it will be leaked?

[jmking]

Originally Posted by Goofball86

Sixty percent of Americans approve of the indictment of former President Donald Trump, according to a new CNN Poll conducted by SSRS following the news that a New York grand jury voted to charge him in connection with hush money payments made to adult film actress Stormy Daniels. About three-quarters of Americans say politics played at least some role in the decision to indict Trump, including 52% who said it played a major role.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/04/03/polit...ent/index.html

I guess that narrative that Trump being indicted will hand him the presidency is nonsense just like it was when he got impeached.

Really, who cares what CNN says, does. That outfit has no cred.

[RetireinPA]

Originally Posted by GotHereQuickAsICould

If you got any evidence, go for it.

isnt that EXACTLY the entire irony? we have iron clad BANK RECORDS now, down to the exact name (but one) and down to the last dollar - saw em last night, they are in the congressional record now entered into evidence, and DOJ stated they will not bring charges, ergo .... here we are. The left arguing why we must keep the double standard....

[LearnMe]

Originally Posted by 366h34d

As I say all the time, don't tell me whether he broke the law or not, first, you need to tell me if he is not "this," will he or will he not be charged?

BTW, do you know the difference between rule by law and rule of law

Say what about what you say all the time?

Regardless, have you got a suggestion as to what we should rely upon when it comes to such things besides our legal system?

Bottom line please.

These smackathons sure do get old in this forum BTW...

[GotHereQuickAsICould]

Originally Posted by Sanderling

The Democrats didn't indict him. A jury of citizens voted to do so.

However, I suspect this is going to work out well for Democrats.

Republicans are fine with protecting criminals. Been doing it for decades.

Not everyone shares that perspective.