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Old 05-02-2023, 08:49 AM
 
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Let's not be so quick to give a gold star to the NY Times for admitting this, they are still propagandist shills. Original article:
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/04/30/u...e-economy.html

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"the store fell victim to a grinding decline in the city's center that began
with the pandemic and could continue for years as companies vacate
offices because of remote work."


No, you activist hacks, this did not "begin" with the pandemic. It began with anything-goes, no enforcement and no prosecution policies of irresponsible governance and the voters who keep them in office. People were sh|tting on the street in large numbers long before COVID came along
This is a fair point.

I readily admit that there is more than one factor and that includes policy, prosecution, economy, pandemic etc.

That being said, I would like to issue one big fat I TOLD YOU SO to the NYT and other news outlets etc. that largely refused to even consider the damage the shutdowns would do and how many people that would be economically ruined, increases in substance abuse etc.

Now we have the same outlets explaining how much damage the shut downs did to society, economy etc.

I still feel that we never should have had COVID lockdowns while we work to still protect the vulnerable. But it got political.
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Old 05-02-2023, 11:02 AM
 
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They come and they go...

"There’s already a Ross Dress for Less at Fourth and Market Streets, and now there may be another one just a block away at Fifth and Market Streets, though it’s unclear if Ross is adding a new store or just planning to move."

https://sfist.com/2023/05/01/ross-dr...market-street/

Downtown San Francisco’s Ikea Could Open Sooner Than Planned

https://sfstandard.com/business/down...-than-planned/

Just to balance things out here a bit for those who see only the negative when it comes to San Francisco...
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Old 05-02-2023, 12:08 PM
 
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They come and they go...

"There’s already a Ross Dress for Less at Fourth and Market Streets, and now there may be another one just a block away at Fifth and Market Streets, though it’s unclear if Ross is adding a new store or just planning to move."

https://sfist.com/2023/05/01/ross-dr...market-street/

Downtown San Francisco’s Ikea Could Open Sooner Than Planned

https://sfstandard.com/business/down...-than-planned/

Just to balance things out here a bit for those who see only the negative when it comes to San Francisco...
I think that some types of businesses, would have a lot more trouble with the homeless and shoplifters than others.

But, regardless I suspect there will be some of those stores remaining but the cost of security and insurance will make everything more expensive.
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Old 05-02-2023, 04:40 PM
 
Location: Free State of Florida
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Now, its Norstrom's pulling out of San Fran, closing both its stores when the leases expire:

https://www.foxbusiness.com/retail/n...-downtown-area

One of America's most beautiful cities turned into a craphole by Liberal politics....sad.

I'm glad I got to see it a few times, before it was destroyed.
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Old 05-02-2023, 05:05 PM
 
Location: Knoxville, TN
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"As ye sow, so shall ye reap."

It is not rocket science. The social fabric is a fragile thing. It takes a long time to fix it. The wild west wasn't tamed over night. It took a long time to bring law to the territories.

It takes no time at all to destroy the social fabric. All you need is to quit enforcing the law and quit demanding responsible behavior from citizens. It doesn't take long to collapse civilization. The collapse of civlization has a mind of its own. Once the ball gets rolling, it is really hard to stop it.

Or as we said in high school Chemistry, "entropy is always increasing".

The thing is, it will take San Francisco decades to put the Genii back in the bottle, if they can at all. It remains to be seen. Things are not looking good.
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Old 05-02-2023, 05:22 PM
 
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Will Amazon dare speak out against these policies that are destroying businesses and cities or will they still push leftist agendas? This has to stop before this disease spreads to the red state enclaves that people are fleeing to.
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Old 05-02-2023, 05:23 PM
 
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“To ensure the safety of our Team Members, we have made the difficult decision to close the Trinity store for the time being,” a Whole Foods Market spokesperson said.

Last November, the San Francisco Standard reported that the Whole Foods location at Trinity Place had limited its store hours following “high theft” and “hostile people,” according to a statement from a store manager who was granted anonymity by the outlet.


https://www.sfgate.com/food/article/...e-17889550.php


On and on it goes. Life in lawless San Francisco.

As you sow, so shall you reap.

I feel sorry for the people who did not vote for these policies. Proably not many of them left. I fled San Francisco in 2009.
Want to know how to destroy cities and a nation?

Ask a democrat to create policy for the region to be destroyed.

It is amazing that ANYONE with an ounce of sense would ever vote for a democrat.
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Old 05-02-2023, 06:13 PM
 
Location: Free State of Florida
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Libs decisions are made mostly from an emotional perspective, not a logical perspective.

San Fran losing its retailers is the result of making emotion-based decisions for decades. It leads to ruin.

After the emotion-based Libs destroy a city, many will leave and move to a conservative city/state where things are much better. They can't understand why the city they left went downhill, and why the conservative place they moved to is so much better.

They can't comprehend that its political policies that causes it all...they are blind to it. They can't be reasoned with, & are not open to the logical train of thought. They are closed minded & stubborn.

Update...Nordtrom's just closed its 2 stores in san Fran too citing decline in neighborhood foot traffic, & theft.

I think we need a new thread titled "Businesses leaving San Fran" to start listing them all in one place.
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Old 05-02-2023, 06:20 PM
 
Location: az
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Nordstrom leaves downtown San Francisco, joining big-city retail exodus
In a statement to The Post, Westfield attributed the closure to “the deteriorating situation in downtown San Francisco” and blamed the departure of businesses on “unsafe conditions for customers, retailers, and employees, coupled with the fact that these significant issues are preventing an economic recovery of the area.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/busin...san-francisco/
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Old 05-02-2023, 06:24 PM
 
Location: Knoxville, TN
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I think San Francisco is in the "viscious cycle" phase of social decline.

Nobody goes to just Nordstroms. They shop at Nordstoms, but then they shop at other stores too, and then go get something to eat, and maybe have some drinks at a bar.

Nordstrom closing means that 2 or 3 or 4 other businesses will lose those same customers also, any given day. So the draw that Nordstrom had to bring people downtown, and the spinoff effect of Nordstrom customers shopping at other places during that shopping trip, means less economic activity, revenue, and tax collections all around.

It is not just Nordstrom losing money, but all of the other businesses their customers would patronize as well.
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