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Old 04-19-2023, 01:56 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Best to stay home jarome and stay away from peeps like i do. You are taking a chance lance going anywhere these days.
Generally speaking, stay away from the Black and Hispanic inner city neighborhoods. That is where the crime is because that is what the studies tell us.
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Old 04-19-2023, 05:03 PM
 
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I would like to thank MSN for completely making my point. They only want to talk about *some* mass shootings...<5% or so. Look at the ones they chose to highlight in "recent weeks". Cherry picking to mislead the narrative.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime...c54b741d&ei=11


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The Dadeville attack was the latest mass shooting to plague the United States in recent weeks.

Four people were fatally shot in Bowdoin, Maine, on Tuesday; Joseph Eaton, 34, was later arrested in connection with the killings, police said.
Five people were killed at a Louisville bank last week before responding police killed gunman Connor Sturgeon, a 25-year-old employee of the bank.
Audrey Hale, a 28-year-old former student at a private Christian school in Nashville, returned to campus on March 27 and killed three young children, a substitute teacher, a custodian and the school's headmistress.
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Old 07-18-2023, 08:17 AM
 
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Update:

Chicago taking the lead, but fortunately only at 15...they were at 25 this time in 2022.

Memphis is probably going to win the per capita title (cities over 500k).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...States_in_2023

All the same usual common situations....the ones that don't generally make national news but are aggregated to point to the number of events.
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Old 07-18-2023, 10:45 AM
 
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I would like a separate category with a new description:


"Shootings of 4 or more people where the victims were entirely random, mainly unconnected, with the shooting by a single individual not acting in self-defense or other exceptional circumstance, while another crime was not being committed simultaneously by the victims or the shooter, that occur in a location where other murders are at or near a zero-rate otherwise."


Most school, church, and the Las Vegas shooting obviously qualify. Wal-Mart a few years back (El Paso). You get the idea.


Using that criteria (I'll call it RMS - Real Mass Shootings) - how many are there in 2023 so far? Any way to run this filter?
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Old 08-31-2023, 05:30 PM
 
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So predictably, after the Jacksonville shootings we have a renewed interest to focus on them, while only providing the example of Jacksonville or other poster childs.

This is what awaited me on my CNN app recently, with reference to all these mass shootings while covering them with a veneer of shootings like Jacksonville or Highland Park without touching on the intervening 100 driveby's, shootings at funeral homes (after drive-bys) etc.

Ironically, they're boostrapping Jacksonville to talk about increased reported hated crimes in major cities...and how blacks, jews and gays are most targeted....but then the news doesn't mention the attacker statistics.

*sigh*

Clearly, the goal is to generate political energy without actually addressing whom is doing the attacking but rather leaving it up to imagination outside of acceptable anecdotes. Hey wait, is an election coming?

Last time we had an election we had the same thing. NYC asian hate crimes task force...wouldn't report on attackers though...then after the election stated they didn't want to cause minority tensions.

Just an FYI of a serious topic being hijacked for years.
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Old 01-24-2024, 08:46 AM
 
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2023 summary

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...States_in_2023

-Chicago finished with the most (22), Philly second (21) but have a lot less population.

-Totals down 10-15% the last 2 years had around 700, this year just over 600 so that's good.
-Chicago had 45 last year and 60+ in 2021 so that's good.

-However, that still >40% in the US more than 2019

Most of the shootings if you dig (some you don't have to when it says "drive by") are gang or gang member related.

Just something to consider as we ignore almost all the mass shootings but a few each year because it doesn't fit an agenda and exposes trite political "solutions" deep flaws.
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Old 01-24-2024, 09:06 AM
 
Location: Honolulu, HI
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2023 summary

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...States_in_2023

-Chicago finished with the most (22), Philly second (21) but have a lot less population.
Interesting, the left told us it was white, MAGA Trumper incels who were responsible for most of the mass shootings.

I'm flabbergasted that 99% of mass shootings were conducted by non-whites.
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Old 01-24-2024, 09:21 AM
 
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Interesting, the left told us it was white, MAGA Trumper incels who were responsible for most of the mass shootings.

I'm flabbergasted that 99% of mass shootings were conducted by non-whites.
It's not 99%.

There are actually different definitions which not surprisingly are used to shift the numbers and force narratives.

Some just flat out exclude gang related shootings to warp the data as if those never happened.
These are the same people that try to include suicides as homicides too.

If you don't exclude gang killings from gun violence totals then you don't get to exclude them from mass shooting data.
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Old 01-24-2024, 09:22 AM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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2023 summary

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...States_in_2023

-Chicago finished with the most (22), Philly second (21) but have a lot less population.

-Totals down 10-15% the last 2 years had around 700, this year just over 600 so that's good.
-Chicago had 45 last year and 60+ in 2021 so that's good.

-However, that still >40% in the US more than 2019

Most of the shootings if you dig (some you don't have to when it says "drive by") are gang or gang member related.

Just something to consider as we ignore almost all the mass shootings but a few each year because it doesn't fit an agenda and exposes trite political "solutions" deep flaws.
Shall not be infringed.
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Old 01-24-2024, 11:45 AM
 
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Shall not be infringed.
Yeah, I'm not talking gun control here...just factual representation of a problem that is presented with one set of numbers and then filtered with fine print to mislead people by using a subset.

People don't REALLY want to face the underlying gun violence issues head on. They want to try to score political points and breeze past.
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