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Old 04-12-2023, 10:53 AM
 
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We really only hear about the school shootings but people do cite the mass shooting numbers.

Most of the others though, don't make the national news, no matter how heart breaking.

So, in the interest of education let's just keep a running thread on this, I'm going to start this week where there are 3 so far.

Sunday -Orlando. "Guys with beef" per the Grandma arguing with guy on sidewalk, stray gunfire hits easter egg hunt people. Poor lady, and she doesn't want to go on camera out of fear of the shooters.

Basically, a drive by.

https://www.fox35orlando.com/video/1205426

Monday - Bank shooting Louisville had a thread on it

Tuesday - DC (#3 for them so far this year) Apparent gang related shooting at the funeral of someone that had been shot.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...ured-rcna79197
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Old 04-12-2023, 12:10 PM
 
Location: Cape Cod
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There are so many shootings everyday in America and most of them can be blamed on "thug life" and gang activity.

I posted on another thread this morning that over the weekend there were 21 people shot and 4 of them died.

https://abc7chicago.com/chicago-shoo...lice/13076646/


Heck in one incident in Chicago this weekend the Police were called to a street because there was a group of guys with guns. The cops arrived the guys ran but not before a couple of them shot at the Police. Luckily no one was injured. There is just no fear these days and the criminals are becoming more brazen.



For years they have been telling us that Black Lives Matter but they do not seem to matter to other Black people and that is sad for in many ways they are their own worse enemy.





Our Elected could prevent much of this senseless loss of life by locking up the criminals that use guns in their crimes. That would be a huge start. Instead our Elected are looking to disarm the average citizen so they will be defenseless against the Thugs. Bring back stop and frisk and make the laws so that they cannot be plea bargained away. It is far too easy for these wanna be gangstas to pull their guns and open up. The problem is they are lousy shots and they often hit innocent bystanders.

If those that carry and use guns were locked up they couldn't shoot anyone. If the Thugs actually feared the Police and being caught with an illegal gun they might think twice before carrying that gun which means they could not pull it and go to work over the slightest of put downs. The life they do not take could actually be their own.



We can get a handle on all of this gun violence by first locking up those that use their illegal guns in crimes.
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Old 04-12-2023, 02:11 PM
 
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You may want to define the terms first.

from dictionary.com - a single incident involving the shooting with one or more firearms of a number of people, but more than two and typically a large number, especially when the victims are random:
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Old 04-12-2023, 02:19 PM
 
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You may want to define the terms first.

from dictionary.com - a single incident involving the shooting with one or more firearms of a number of people, but more than two and typically a large number, especially when the victims are random:
Good point, we've had people try to change it before. We already have one temporary poster trying to asterisk the majority of the mass shootings and just focus on the half dozen a year that are "bad".

That's a really key point, people want to cite statistics about all shootings but they only want to talk about the tiny % that fit their agenda and proposed solutions.

Mass shooting definition is 4+ per FBI.

https://www.ojp.gov/ncjrs/virtual-li...mass-shootings
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Old 04-12-2023, 02:33 PM
 
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I've come to the conclusion that to the left and the anti-gun activists that Mass Shootings are like the hot girl in a skimpy outfit who acts as the Magicians assistant. They are the distraction which allows the Magician to do their tricks. Meaning all the focus on Mass Shootings which while terrible are only a very small amount of gun deaths yet so much effort is spent focused on them that we ignore the real plague of gun shootings caused by inner city murders, often by repeat offenders, who are let out over and over again my left leaning DA's.

You know just ignore all those shootings that are caused by our bad policies and lookie, lookie over here at the girl in the skimpy outfit(the dramatic Mass shootings)
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Old 04-12-2023, 02:50 PM
 
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Good point, we've had people try to change it before. We already have one temporary poster trying to asterisk the majority of the mass shootings and just focus on the half dozen a year that are "bad".

That's a really key point, people want to cite statistics about all shootings but they only want to talk about the tiny % that fit their agenda and proposed solutions.

Mass shooting definition is 4+ per FBI.

https://www.ojp.gov/ncjrs/virtual-li...mass-shootings
Is a gang war where two sides are killing each other part of the definition? Or is it a single offender only?
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Old 04-12-2023, 08:48 PM
 
Location: Denver CO
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The anti-gun crowd tries to have it both ways. They say mass shooters are predominantly white men but then spout off the 1 mass shooting per day statistic based on the FBI definition 'any incident in which at least four people are murdered with a gun", in which case the vast majority of "mass shooters" are minorities (mainly black or hispanic). But that doesn't fit the narrative
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Old 04-13-2023, 05:39 AM
 
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We have a cultural problem that gun laws can never solve.
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Old 04-13-2023, 06:18 AM
 
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I've come to the conclusion that to the left and the anti-gun activists that Mass Shootings are like the hot girl in a skimpy outfit who acts as the Magicians assistant. They are the distraction which allows the Magician to do their tricks. Meaning all the focus on Mass Shootings which while terrible are only a very small amount of gun deaths yet so much effort is spent focused on them that we ignore the real plague of gun shootings caused by inner city murders, often by repeat offenders, who are let out over and over again my left leaning DA's.

You know just ignore all those shootings that are caused by our bad policies and lookie, lookie over here at the girl in the skimpy outfit(the dramatic Mass shootings)
This is exactly it. And too many anti gun individuals are blind to this. The politician's also use the mass shooting to target a semi auto rifle that is rarely used. Politicians and the media have built up so much disinformation about this particular rifle that if and when they get another ban to pass, the anti gunners and Democratic followers will rejoice, thinking their party actually did something and it will end gun violence.

It has to be the only way to explain why there is so much hyper focus on mass shootings, while suicides which make up over 50% of gun deaths, and then the nightly shootings that happen in our cities , the majority of which handguns are used seem to get ignored. It really is bizarre, although that seems to be the modus operandi of this administration.

The media helps lead the masses as well. Look at the last three mass shootings. MSU, TN, KY.

The MSU and TN shootings are already out of our news cycle. I'm willing to bet it's because MSU used a handgun, one that he shouldn't have been able to purchase legally, except for a DA reduced a prior gun related charge down from felony to a misdemeanor. The TN shooting is out because it was a member of one of the "protected" groups that did it, and no AR was used.
The KY shooting was committed by a young white male, which did use an AR. The media and the politicians will be milking everything they can out of this one. It falls right into this administrations agenda to distract everyone from where the major issues are in our country.

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Old 04-13-2023, 06:41 AM
 
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I've come to the conclusion that to the left and the anti-gun activists that Mass Shootings are like the hot girl in a skimpy outfit who acts as the Magicians assistant. They are the distraction which allows the Magician to do their tricks. Meaning all the focus on Mass Shootings which while terrible are only a very small amount of gun deaths yet so much effort is spent focused on them that we ignore the real plague of gun shootings caused by inner city murders, often by repeat offenders, who are let out over and over again my left leaning DA's.

You know just ignore all those shootings that are caused by our bad policies and lookie, lookie over here at the girl in the skimpy outfit(the dramatic Mass shootings)
Exactly! ...SQUIRREL!!! And the left falls for it. Every time.

Here's what EVERYONE needs to know...
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“In general mass shootings account for less than 1% of all firearms deaths in the United States, that’s for all ages,” Dr. Los Lee, an associate professor of Pediatrics and Emergency Medicine at Harvard Medical School says. “When you look at it for children, it’s also less than 1%. So they account for a very small number.”

...The majority of these shootings happen within inner-city minority communities. Black children are 14 times more likely than white kids and teens to die as a result of gun violence. Hispanic or Latino children are three times more likely than white kids to die as a result of gun violence. To put it plainly, Black and Hispanic or Latino children are severely more exposed to gun violence than white children.
https://time.com/6182856/children-gu...ass-shootings/

But, no... lefties won't even begin to address that. Ever.
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